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mahatmakanejeeves

(58,345 posts)
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:27 PM May 6

4 teenagers die in high-speed chase after trooper uses PIT maneuver

4 teenagers die in high-speed chase after trooper uses PIT maneuver

By Ryan Wyatt Turbeville
Published: Apr. 27, 2024 at 6:03 AM EDT

NEWBERRY, Fla. (WCJB/Gray News) - Grief counselors were at Newberry High School in Florida all week after several teenagers were killed in a crash during a chase involving state troopers in Bradford County. ... Newberry city officials said all four of the teenagers, who were between the ages of 14 and 16, died after they were involved in a wreck in the Waldo area last Saturday. ... Two of the teens died on the scene and the other two died from their injuries in the hospital days later. ... Officials said two of the teenagers were Newberry High School students.



Bradford County Sheriff’s Office deputies said the pursuit started with an SUV that was stolen out of Gainesville. It was detected by a license plate reader hours later. ... A sheriff’s deputy confirmed the SUV was stolen and followed it while waiting for backup. The deputy could tell multiple people were in the vehicle, according to investigators. ... Once backup arrived, deputies attempted to pull the SUV over, but it slowed down and then sped off.

Deputies reached speeds of 111 mph during the chase, but a mechanism in their patrol vehicles prevented them from accelerating more. ... Officials said deputies pulled back after they were unable to keep up with the vehicle and a Florida Highway Patrol trooper continued the chase. ... The trooper rammed the vehicle and used a PIT maneuver, causing the SUV to roll over and collide with a cement pole. ... Authorities said two of the teenagers in the SUV were wearing ankle monitors and three had active warrants.

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4 teenagers die in high-speed chase after trooper uses PIT maneuver (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 6 OP
They were 14 to 16 yo. Mosby May 6 #1
Stop stealing vehicles. Stop going 111MPH jimfields33 May 6 #7
The speeds involved were due to the chase. Mosby May 6 #10
They easily could have pulled over when requested. jimfields33 May 6 #14
Stop high speed chases. marble falls May 6 #12
If they stopped when required then no high speed chase. jimfields33 May 6 #13
If you don't chase them no innocent public gets killed. Why chase them at all? Drone or helecoptor after them ... marble falls May 6 #16
You would think with those vast number of examples, jimfields33 May 6 #17
You expect the criminals to be the adults in the room!?!?!?! Cops almost always know who they're chaseing and how ... marble falls May 6 #18
Explain how cops know the identities of those driving a stolen car ? n/t MichMan May 7 #20
Please. Are you saying cops never know who in the car? What makes you think most chases are for stolen cars???? marble falls May 7 #21
The OP is about 4 teenagers fleeing police in a stolen car MichMan May 7 #22
Four less jerks LiberalFighter May 6 #2
??? Alliepoo May 6 #3
DU is a BIG tent. n/t Marcus IM May 6 #5
No sarcasm intended. Their behavior are those of jerks LiberalFighter May 6 #6
--- and warrants for their arrests. Auto theft and speeding is not a capital offense. But I am confident these 3Hotdogs May 6 #8
But the police recovered the vehicle, right? Marcus IM May 6 #4
Two were wearing ankle monitors and three had active warrants ms liberty May 6 #9
FAFO OAITW r.2.0 May 6 #11
True, true, and more true. jimfields33 May 6 #15
Kids driving stolen cars never kill innocent people when not being pursued. Yeah! Sure! Wonder Why May 6 #19
Young and unsupervised S. Love May 24 #23

Mosby

(16,574 posts)
10. The speeds involved were due to the chase.
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:30 PM
May 6

That's why some states (like CA) have vehicle pursuit guidelines that try to balance public safety, suspect safety and the law.

marble falls

(58,802 posts)
16. If you don't chase them no innocent public gets killed. Why chase them at all? Drone or helecoptor after them ...
Mon May 6, 2024, 05:55 PM
May 6
https://www.sfchronicle.com › projects › 2024 › police-chases
Police chases have killed hundreds of passengers, bystanders in US
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New report recommends limiting police pursuits to violent crimes after ...
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Aiming to curb the hundreds of deaths caused by police chases in the U.S. each year, a new report calls for police not to start a pursuit unless a violent crime has been committed and the suspect poses an imminent threat. The study released Tuesday by the Police Executive Research Forum, a national think tank on policing ...

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Hundreds Are Killed Each Year in Police Pursuits, Many of ... - Newsweek
Aug 16, 2022Since 1979, more than 5,000 bystanders have been killed during police pursuits in the U.S. The number represents 27 percent of high-speed police pursuit deaths.

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High-speed pursuit liability and other questions surrounding police ...
In 1998, the Supreme Court held that high-speed police chases resulting in death, due to "deliberate or reckless indifference to life," do not violate substantive due process rights unless the officer intended to cause harm unrelated to the legitimate object of arrest. While the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the 8th and 9th Circuits follow a ...

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Police car chases kill hundreds every year, most are not drivers
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High-speed police pursuits have no place in public safety - Prism
Jul 12, 2022In 2015, The Washington Post found that police high-speed chases kill approximately 323 people each year, more than floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, and lightning combined. Safer America found that from 1996 to 2015, an average of 355 people were killed annually in police pursuits—approximately one life per day—and that more than 2,000 people ...

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Police Keep Killing People During High-Speed Chases
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https://www.usatoday.com › pages › interactives › high-speed-chases
Police chases kill thousands - USA TODAY
It also explains what kinds of people were killed and why deadly chases began. Nearly every day, someone is killed during a high-speed chase between police and a suspect. Almost half of the 11,500 ...

https://www.cbsnews.com › losangeles › news › 2020-deadliest-year-for-police-pursuits-since-2006-according-to-a-recent-analysis-of-data-from-chp
2020 Deadliest Year For Police Pursuits Since 2006 ... - CBS News
LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) - Last year, 41 people died as a result of high speed police-involved pursuits making 2020 the deadliest year for chases since 2006, according to an analysis of California ...

https://www.nytimes.com › 2023 › 11 › 24 › us › texas-border-police-chases.html
High-Speed Police Chases Rise Near Texas Border, Leaving Locals on Edge ...
Nov 24, 2023The rise in deaths appeared to closely track the rise in chases by the state police. In South Texas counties along or near the border, chases doubled to 1,100 in 2022 from about 500 in 2019. There ...

jimfields33

(16,717 posts)
17. You would think with those vast number of examples,
Mon May 6, 2024, 06:01 PM
May 6

They would have thought, “guys, this isn’t a good idea to be chased after by police going 110MPH, I’m going to pull over and see what they want. I’m going to be responsible.” I wonder if that even crossed their minds?

marble falls

(58,802 posts)
18. You expect the criminals to be the adults in the room!?!?!?! Cops almost always know who they're chaseing and how ...
Mon May 6, 2024, 06:09 PM
May 6

... to get a hold of them at other times. 90% of these crimes have to do with property crimes, they don't need to risk any lives pinching a minor felony or misdemeanor.

Those four kids were on their way to jail anyways. No fucking need to kill them.

Are you sure you post in the right place?

marble falls

(58,802 posts)
21. Please. Are you saying cops never know who in the car? What makes you think most chases are for stolen cars????
Tue May 7, 2024, 09:32 PM
May 7

And who cares? Do you think having your kid run over is worth hooking a car thief. That's the rational gun huggers use to justify kids' death from firearms. Yeah, the kid is dead but I got my AK/yeah a kid is dead, my car is wrecked, but the culprit is dead, too! Win/win - right?

MichMan

(12,105 posts)
22. The OP is about 4 teenagers fleeing police in a stolen car
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:30 PM
May 7

What happens when pursuits are prohibited, and lawbreakers know all they have to do is flee at high speeds to avoid prosecution ?

Alliepoo

(2,253 posts)
3. ???
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:57 PM
May 6

Are you referring to the 4 teenagers when you say 4 less jerks? Did you forget the snark/sarcasm symbol?

LiberalFighter

(52,160 posts)
6. No sarcasm intended. Their behavior are those of jerks
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:02 PM
May 6

Endangering the lives of others. They also had ankle monitors.

3Hotdogs

(12,686 posts)
8. --- and warrants for their arrests. Auto theft and speeding is not a capital offense. But I am confident these
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:08 PM
May 6

individuals were not up for this year's community service awards.

Marcus IM

(2,483 posts)
4. But the police recovered the vehicle, right?
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:58 PM
May 6

It was a stolen SUV.
Priority one is to recover stolen property.

Oh ... Wait ...

ms liberty

(8,711 posts)
9. Two were wearing ankle monitors and three had active warrants
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:08 PM
May 6

4 kids, 14-16 years old, in a stolen vehicle. Kids that age don't realize their stupid decisions can be permanent.

S. Love

(1 post)
23. Young and unsupervised
Fri May 24, 2024, 03:27 PM
May 24

Even though these young people were young we have to think about the parts that were said about 2 having ankle monitors and 3 having active warrants for their arrests. My question is where in the hell are the parents? There is no way my 14-16yr old is going to be doing anything to get in that much trouble under my watch and even if they did and were to wear ankle monitors there would be no room for them to gain a warrant for their arrest or leave the house at that. They literally are fending for themselves at that point. I understand kids can be bad but come on now. They've obviously been in Trouble more than once so be a damn parent and parent them kids. Keep their bad butts in the dang house. These kids obviously knew they were in Trouble from stealing the car while in Trouble in the first place thus the chase. I am curious if there was one kid out of those 4 that had no bad rap just wrong place wrong time. They never said all 4 were troublemakers with monitors and/or warrants. I believe one of them 14yr Olds was innocent. Either way now they race and had to see their demise coming the very quick moment they could see and then their lives were over. Just done.. no more kids. No graduations, no growing up and out of the crap they were involved in. These boys needed some serious help and the parents that didn't do that should be ashamed of themselves. I have given up my entire life as I knew it to be once I had children. Yes I work and yes I struggle to but no matter what I take care of my kids and their needs both physically and mentally. They have a whole life to live and we have lived ours the way we chose to its not their fault they were born it's ours and it's a responsibility not a hobby. Parents better wake the hell up!!! I'll be broke and homeless before I let my child detour from being a good human being and a productive human being as well. This is BS and never should have happened. Actions speak louder than words don't just tell them you love them show them or this will keep happening.

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