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TexasTowelie

(111,300 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:12 AM Apr 2018

LTTE: Abortions caused Toys R Us bankruptcy

Toys R Us, which was in business for 70 years, announced that it would close, leaving 33,000 Americans without jobs and more jobs lost around the world.

Company leaders attributed decreased business to a number of factors, including the declining birth rate. Abortion and the declining birth rate are intricately connected.

Data show that women are having children later in life (in their 30s and 40s), but not enough to account for the decline among younger women in their 20s.

Women in their 20s accounted for nearly 60 percent of all abortions performed in the U.S. in 2014, according to a CDC report.

Read more: http://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/letters-the-editor/2018-04-16/letter-the-editor-abortions-taking-toll-businesses.html



It's time for DUers to do their civic duty and start procreating to save the next Toys R Us.

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LTTE: Abortions caused Toys R Us bankruptcy (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2018 OP
well if there were adequate decent paying jobs vlyons Apr 2018 #1
I'm being blamed for decreasing the customer base? no_hypocrisy Apr 2018 #2
I fall in the same boat. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #4
Well, I'd be glad to help! machoneman Apr 2018 #12
Get in line, pal! (n/t) PJMcK Apr 2018 #26
That's exactly what we need. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #31
Well, thank goodness that has been cleared up Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #3
I ran across the letter and couldn't resist posting the pearls of wisdom contained within. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #5
Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #8
Jesus H. Christ at a yard sale... chwaliszewski Apr 2018 #6
I only had 2 children instead of 2.4, so I'm probably to blame as well knightmaar Apr 2018 #7
You're in the clear, knightmaar.... raven mad Apr 2018 #14
I'm shocked! They didn't throw us gay people into the blame pool!?!? Amimnoch Apr 2018 #9
Don't give them ideas. kag Apr 2018 #20
Because I was not able to have kids, I guess I share the blame. TNNurse Apr 2018 #10
"Abortions in Texas decreased by 20 percent and births rose 3 percent" left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #11
I've always been a slacker. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #28
Got me thinking left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #29
Next to go then are... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2018 #13
Have more raunchy sex and be more promiscuous.... magicarpet Apr 2018 #15
Low birth rate. zentrum Apr 2018 #16
Oh, yeah, that increased birth rate? Ohiogal Apr 2018 #17
What utter nonsense! And here's (really) why..... luvtheGWN Apr 2018 #18
Maybe if we weren't killing all our kids and incarcerating all the brown ones AllyCat Apr 2018 #19
This is hilarious and scary at the same time Snake Plissken Apr 2018 #21
Other Reasons Puppyjive Apr 2018 #22
THIS! Zoonart Apr 2018 #34
And this paper is in an Illinois state university town. How ignorant lunasun Apr 2018 #23
What the actual fucking fuck? kag Apr 2018 #24
Toys r us mercuryblues Apr 2018 #25
Bingo!!!! tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #30
I live rurally mercuryblues Apr 2018 #35
Its downright scary that there are people that believe this crap tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #27
Tax cuts for rich and old white men thbobby Apr 2018 #32
On the plus side, abortion reduces the crime rate, which has fallen since the 80s. Shrike47 Apr 2018 #33
The only thing abortions affects... raising2moredems Apr 2018 #36

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. well if there were adequate decent paying jobs
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:23 AM
Apr 2018

Young women could choose to be stay at home moms, while single paycheck Dad went to work. Or if Mom's got decent maternity leave with pay, maybe they wouldn't opt for an aboretion

TexasTowelie

(111,300 posts)
4. I fall in the same boat.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:44 AM
Apr 2018

My decreased libido is bankrupting American businesses. I need to eat Viagra like they were gummy bears before GameStop goes out of business.

machoneman

(3,952 posts)
12. Well, I'd be glad to help!
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:01 AM
Apr 2018

Send me some quite fertile and hot young women, say 21-35, and I'll do my very best to (ahem) to increase the population!

TexasTowelie

(111,300 posts)
31. That's exactly what we need.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:50 AM
Apr 2018

More men willing to donate to the cause--of course if they beat each other up while waiting in line we might not get the desired results.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Well, thank goodness that has been cleared up
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:33 AM
Apr 2018

I am happy to know that the changing Retail sector, leverage buyouts, online shopping, bad management decisions and over building of brick and mortar stores had nothing to do with the failure of Toys r Us.

There’s that logic all twisted into a pretzel 🥨 again.

TexasTowelie

(111,300 posts)
5. I ran across the letter and couldn't resist posting the pearls of wisdom contained within.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:54 AM
Apr 2018

It has to be the most foolish logic to not have an abortion that I've ever read. I'd rather read an emotional or moral appeal because at least it means that someone is addressing a core belief than to pass it off as a bad for business move.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Precisely
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:33 AM
Apr 2018

I appreciate someone who has a religious, moral or emotional objection to abortion, but I find to often that to be simply covering their desire to have others behave as they believe they should as opposed to what they claim.

This letter was simply looney, but does at least provide entertainment value.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
7. I only had 2 children instead of 2.4, so I'm probably to blame as well
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:31 AM
Apr 2018

But I try to make up for it by buying a shitload of Lego ... um, for the kids ... so I'm probably okay.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
14. You're in the clear, knightmaar....
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:12 AM
Apr 2018

I, however, only had one. Why mess with perfection?

Never shopped there ,anyway.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
9. I'm shocked! They didn't throw us gay people into the blame pool!?!?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:39 AM
Apr 2018

What a completely ridiculous article and a completely ridiculous premise.

The author and anyone who gives any credence to this premise at all are the ones who REALLY should not be considering procreation.

kag

(4,076 posts)
20. Don't give them ideas.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:09 AM
Apr 2018

Though I'm sure this woman has enough self-righteous ire to let loose on the gay community as well.

TNNurse

(6,911 posts)
10. Because I was not able to have kids, I guess I share the blame.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:40 AM
Apr 2018

And of course I never buy toys for any family members or kids of friends. I am so guilty.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. "Abortions in Texas decreased by 20 percent and births rose 3 percent"
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:50 AM
Apr 2018

Seems Texan men need to get back in the saddle more.
Thy're not giving it their best shot.

TexasTowelie

(111,300 posts)
28. I've always been a slacker.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:46 AM
Apr 2018

However, I'll be on Social Security long before any children I have would graduate from high school so I'll withhold my slacker DNA from the gene pool.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,593 posts)
13. Next to go then are...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:06 AM
Apr 2018

Diaper companies, baby food companies, kids furniture companies, kids toy companies, kids clothing companies, nanny companies, kid book companies.

Damn those abortion companies they’re the only kids enterprises that will be in business.

magicarpet

(13,941 posts)
15. Have more raunchy sex and be more promiscuous....
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:14 AM
Apr 2018

To save a local big box retailer from biting the dust and filing bankruptcy.

Have more sex so the corporate stock holders enjoy the fruits of your labor.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
16. Low birth rate.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:25 AM
Apr 2018

……(and not from abortion, damnit!) is one of the problems facing social security too. Embrace immigration in a sane and traditional way (the way that built the country to begin with) and both problems are solved.

Ohiogal

(31,660 posts)
17. Oh, yeah, that increased birth rate?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:47 AM
Apr 2018

It was primarily among women on Medicaid. You know, the ones who couldn't afford to take a day off from work to travel hundreds of miles to have an abortion that they must pay for themselves.

Those Medicaid women who are flush with cash to buy all sorts of toys and fancy furniture for their children.....

This is some pretty twisted pretzel logic. I'm sure the Religious Right is perpetuating this nonsense as far as they can get away with it. And unfortunately, there are enough brainwashed minds out there that accept this garbage as truth. Sickening.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
18. What utter nonsense! And here's (really) why.....
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:48 AM
Apr 2018

Toys 'R Us Canada is doing just fine, and guess what? Access to abortion is much greater (Canada-wide, in fact) here. Demographics are pretty similar in both countries.

Talking about grabbing at straws! This anti-choice folk will try anything to promote their selfish, thoughtless, misguided cause.

AllyCat

(16,035 posts)
19. Maybe if we weren't killing all our kids and incarcerating all the brown ones
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:08 AM
Apr 2018

Toys or Us would still be in business. Or maybe they needed to change with the market.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
21. This is hilarious and scary at the same time
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:13 AM
Apr 2018

The hilariousness of this is self explanatory, what's scary is not only are there people out there who believe this, but a newspaper is willing to print this paid for derangement on it's editorial page as if it has some sort of possible validity.

Puppyjive

(484 posts)
22. Other Reasons
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:19 AM
Apr 2018

My child went from toys to electronics. Did they ever consider what kids play with now? He was playing on the computer at about 3 years old. I also wonder why they think young people would even want to have children with the current decline of the middle class? Young people cannot climb out of poverty, even with a college education. If you can't support a child, why have one? Birth control is much more affordable. Toy R Us also lost out to Amazon, which has lower prices and delivers to your door. Why don't these businesses ever compete? How much gets skimmed for the top? They could have become the toy delivery service. Sometimes you have to get out of your box.

Zoonart

(11,749 posts)
34. THIS!
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:03 AM
Apr 2018

Kids start playing with electronics at a very early age and a recent market study stated that kids age out of conventional toys at 3 1/2 years of age as opposed to 7 years of age just ten years ago. So market forces like Amazon, over expansion, stalled inventory, all combined to kill Toys R Us.

Also, I understand that Mitt Romney's Bain Capitol, sucked them dry:

Just a few years ago, Toys 'R' Us was an iconic American retailer. Six months ago, it filed for bankruptcy. Two days ago, it announced that all 800 of its American stores, and all 100 of its British ones, are closing or being sold. As many as 33,000 workers could lose their jobs.

What happened to America's biggest toy store?

Simply put, vulture capitalists ate it.


More: http://theweek.com/articles/761124/how-vulture-capitalists-ate-toys-r

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. And this paper is in an Illinois state university town. How ignorant
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:21 AM
Apr 2018

What about the " immigrant breeding "Trump was angry about ? :

kag

(4,076 posts)
24. What the actual fucking fuck?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:25 AM
Apr 2018

She's serious! I kept waiting for the punch line at the end, but she's fucking serious! Wow!

It couldn't possibly be that so many people are dying at or before child-bearing years from...

gun violence
opioids
smoking
pollution
car accidents
cancer
(insert fatal disease here)
plane crashes
homicide by van
russian poisoning

or, for that matter, BOTCHED FUCKING ABORTIONS because morons like this woman are making it so difficult for women to have a SAFE abortion, and some women would rather risk DYING than carrying on with an unwanted pregnancy.


mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
25. Toys r us
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:25 AM
Apr 2018

Did not say abortion is why they are closing. TrU has donated to planned parenthood, targeting cancer screenings. They did attribute a lower birth rate in the USA and around the world as a small factor in their decreased sales.

The great reccession was their largest factor. They never fully recovered because on-line shopping was on the rise. IOW they are facing the same problems other brick and morter stores are.

tulipsandroses

(5,092 posts)
30. Bingo!!!!
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:49 AM
Apr 2018

Technology is the freaking answer. If I can find it cheaper online- I am buying it online. Heck, even if its not cheaper online, just more convenient. I don't do holiday shopping in stores anymore. I order everything online. I don't want to deal with overcrowded stores. Heck, thats translated to food these days too. I think Ubereats, Doordash is the best thing since slice bread. I have to pay a fee but it saves me a trip, saves time, so to me its worth it. Just press a few buttons on my cell phone and I have food from my favorite restaurant at my door. Will be looking into doing it for my grocery shopping too. Yes, technology is making me lazy!

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
35. I live rurally
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:14 AM
Apr 2018

To get to many stores it is a 30 minute drive. Then I have to get this from here, that from this store, go there to get this done. By the time all is said and done, I have spent 4-6 hours in and out of stores, used a 1/4 tank of gas and plum worn out.

Now I order most stuff online and utilize free shipping. My selection is much better and I can compare pricing from various vendors. I also keep a wish list going at websites that have one. If my family wants to know what to get me for a gift, I send them there. They can chose something in their price range and ship it to me. From shampoo to charms for my bracelet.

I have come across a few stores that do on-line ordering and pick-up at the store. I haven't looked to see if they charge for that service.



tulipsandroses

(5,092 posts)
27. Its downright scary that there are people that believe this crap
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:44 AM
Apr 2018

No wonder they fell for the fake news pushed by the Russian trolls.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
32. Tax cuts for rich and old white men
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:50 AM
Apr 2018

does not help sell toys. If working class parents got tax cuts, they could afford more toys for their children. If working class could have medical benefits, same deal. Grow the middle class. GOP thievery shrinks the middle class, so there is less demand for non-essential items, like toys.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
33. On the plus side, abortion reduces the crime rate, which has fallen since the 80s.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:52 AM
Apr 2018

The fewer adolescent and young adult males there are, the lower the crime rate. I think there was a section in the book Freakonomics about this.

raising2moredems

(627 posts)
36. The only thing abortions affects...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:36 PM
Apr 2018

is the pocketbooks of those who sell white babies. If abortions made more money than adoptions, there would be no discussion. To those who are so "pro-life":

1 - do you support a federal law regulating adoption?
2 - do you support a federal law that removes those who wish to adopt once s/he reaches the age of 40?
3 - do you support a federal law that provides no-cost/low cost birth control?
4 - do you support a federal law that precludes a person who is associated with an adoption agency from presiding over an adoption (aka no judges sitting on the board of an "adoption" agency)?
5 - do you support a federal law that bans/severely limits foreign adoptions?
6 - do you support a federal law that limits the cost of adoption to $5000?
7 - do you support a law that bans private adoption?
8 - do you support a federal law that bans parents from forcing a minor child to give up a baby for adoption?
9 - do you support a federal law that funds health care, education, affordable housing, and a safe environment for children?

If you answer NO to any of the above, cease calling yourself pro-life.

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