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Related: About this forumThe Truth on Proposal 1 & What It Will and Will Not Do
The Best Explanation Period of What Proposal 1 of 2015 will and will not do. After one hears this questions will form why a complex Proposal such as this will be brought before the Michigan Populace for a vote. Don't we pay Legislators in Lansing to work out complex and detailed mess like this?
By the way, we will be interviewing Representative Ray Franz (R) Exclusively on Independent Underground News & Talk/IU Radio LIVE Program TODAY -- Tuesday, April 14, 2015 (TONIGHT) at 9pm ET. #?Bookmark to listen in here: http://j.mp/IURL41415
Novara
(5,838 posts)Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
longship
(40,416 posts)What do the progressives in the state have to say about it?
I don't want to make a mistake on this vote. In fact, my sister called me the other day and asked for information on it. I could not advise her because I have not heard much about Prop 1.
So what's the deal with this?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)However good luck finding factual information about this proposal otherwise. In this case of Proposal 1, it should not be a Democrat or Republican issue --- the issue is IF you can afford the tax increase of 16.7% PLUS the other associated costs. If you can, go for it. If you can't or don't believe you can, listen to the video as Franz presents the case from a factual (as in numbers and statistical information) point of view.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)the effects of sale taxes are always regressive, despite the exemption of food. Poor people pay the freight, not those wealthy enough to afford it without suffering.
And the deception employed: only a portion (less than half, I believe) of the money raised goes to the roads, and some to the schools, and the rest runs through ratholes into special interest pockets.
Furthermore...the first thing to suffer in an economic downturn is the sales tax revenues. So this is a cheap way to look like they are fixing a problem, when in fact, they are making it worse.
The PROPER way to fund any government, especially in a putative democracy, is through progressive taxes on current income (and only that portion which is above a reasonable standard of living), and estate taxes to prevent the formation and growth of an economic aristocracy.
Note how the GOP is hell-bent on eliminating both these funding sources....so the DeVos family can rest easy, like the Fords and such before them....
Novara
(5,838 posts)Tax the people who can afford it, not the people who can't. The bill is loaded with all sorts of added shit - the money raised won't all go to fixing the roads. Roads still won't be repaired because there still won't be enough. There's too much bloat in this bill. And the rich fat cats still sit there on their piles of cash while the rest of us fume. No way am I voting for this pile of garbage.
Make the legislators do their job and pass a bill that's fair. A bill that addresses the roads, not all the other crap they stuffed into this bill. It's as if they see potential income from taxing the people who can't afford it as a free-for-all to fund all their pet projects.
No. Nope. No FUCKING way.