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Related: About this forumA glass stadium for the Vikings
Because the Metrodome roof hasn't collapsed enough, the new Vikings stadium will have a glass roof.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9272021/minnesota-vikings-unveil-glass-centric-design-new-stadium
chknltl
(10,558 posts)Nuff said.
msongs
(67,394 posts)BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Its almost all taxpayer funded, off this lame form of gambling called pull tabs which hasn't turned out to generate profits. Now they have to come up with the money another way. Opposing state funding for the stadium was the ONE thing state Republicans have done that I supported. I'm still mad about sinking money into that ridiculous football team.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Looks like a church...
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)The Monastery for the Brothers of Corporate Steroid Abuse?
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)From what I know of the Viking's boating history.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)n/t
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)And you thought the Dome had issues!!!! Some glass manufacturing firm in Southern Minnesota,GOP supporter,will get the bid. No problem here,not.
John Marty,were are you.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)More taxpayer funds down the Vikings money pit.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Other than that I like the concept and the fact that there will be development around it and a park. A park!!!!!!!! I hope Wells Fargo doesn't get to anchor it though like they are talking about.
progree
(10,901 posts)As Tom Fisher, the dean of the College of Design at the University of Minnesota noted on Monday, the new stadium may have the largest transparent doors and roof in the world. It also seems to have another potentially dangerous feature for birds glass on both ends of the building, offering the illusion that they can fly all the way through it.
Mark Martell, director of bird conservation with the Minnesota chapter of the Audubon Society, says the design certainly got his organizations attention. Its an amazing structure, he said. And it may pose a problem:
Weve been aware of the issue of bird collisions in urban areas for a number of years. In fact, were leading an effort to monitor that very thing in both downtown Minneapolis and St. Paul and to work with building owners and architects to find ways to reduce that. In the context that theres a large structure going up near the Mississippi River, we are always looking for ways in which we could reduce the impact that would have on birds.
More: http://blogs.mprnews.org/stadium-watch/2013/05/17/birders-worry-about-glassy-new-vikings-stadium-design/
Caption: Nashville Warbler after window strike in downtown St. Paul
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Birds fly into windows all the time.
progree
(10,901 posts)People drop dead from pollution all the time too. People die in wars all the time too. Women are sexually assaulted all the time. Nothing crappy about any of that, right? Why bother with any efforts to reduce any of that, since it happens all the time?
What the concern is that besides having so much glass area for its volume is that, as I bolded in #13: It also seems to have another potentially dangerous feature for birds glass on both ends of the building, offering the illusion that they can fly all the way through it.
In other words, and reading the rest of the article, it is likely to kill a lot more birds than any similarly sized building, even ones with a lot of glass windows -- most of those buildings are not "see right through"
[font color ="red", size = 4]THAT IS CRAP[/font]
Nice Transparency Page.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)It's about a tax payer funded stadium, and since I'm paying for the fucking thing I have a right to complain about it. That also means I have to pay for all the times the roof collapses. It's bad enough I have to subsidize a pathetic and useless football team. Now I have to pay for endless repairs on a bad building design.
progree
(10,901 posts)since it happens all the time anyway.
Birds fly into windows all the time.
Nice transparency page.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Is it really that hard to have a conversation without gratuitous personal swipes? Sad.
"Crap" is exactly what I'll be paying to remove from all over the top of that stadium, when I should be paying for better education and roads.
progree
(10,901 posts)Last edited Mon May 20, 2013, 02:04 AM - Edit history (1)
[font color = "blue"]BainesBane>>19. honestly Is it really that hard to have a conversation without gratuitous personal swipes? Sad. <<[/font]
The first gratuitous swipe, as you call it, was your #15 (below in blue) -- Glinda expressed dismay in her #14 about the new design's penchant for excessive bird kills,
to which you replied with what seems to me a cold-hearted gratuitous little nasty that added nothing to the conversation but to demean people who care about unnecessarily excessive bird kills:
[font color = "blue"] BainesBane>>15. Why do you say "crap" Birds fly into windows all the time. <<[/font]
Seriously, what was the point of that?
I was supporting you in my original post about the birds in #13, as was Glinda in #14 in her agreement with me, and indirectly with you, that the new Vikings stadium design has some issues.
And where was the "gratuitous personal swipe" in my responses? I was just explaining things, and complementing you on your nice transparency page --
4945 posts in the last 90 days (averaging 55/day or 2.3/hour, 24/7)
and only 7 hides (0.14%) (of which 4 just barely made the threshold to hide of 4 to-hide votes, and none were 6 to-hide)
and only 41 star members ignoring you (a miniscule fraction of the 200,000 or so DU membership).
glinda
(14,807 posts)When I said crap I meant it in a bummed manner. This is sad as the design is actually pretty detrimental to birds. We deal with issue at our home where I have regular windows and we have had to put up stickers on the glass.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)thanks for the explanation.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)dflprincess
(28,075 posts)I wonder if we'll still be able to roller blade in it?