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3Hotdogs

(12,367 posts)
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 01:40 PM Sep 2021

Hospitals to patients: FUCK YIZ ALL !

This morning's Newark Star-Ledger tells the story of a nurse in Hackensack Meridian Health. Seems she figured out, all by herself,
that the hospital's requirement to get vaccinated was an example of government over-control. Thus, she sought and received an exemption BASED ON RELIGION.

Fast forward, she gets an ICU patient with the same demographics as her --- 30 years of age, 2 kids, unvaccinated. The patient died and our heroine decides, maybe that Jesus fella wasn't right after all. And she gets vaccinated, becoming a front page story as a lesson to other unvaccinated people that maybe vaccination is a good idea.

This takes me to the hospital, Hackensack Meridian Health (HMH). A spokesman for the business tells us that 6% of its staff are unvaccinated. Think about that. They have 33,000 employees and 1,980 of them (now, minus 1) are unvaccinated and interacting with patients and the public. And based on privacy, we can't even know which ones of those are followers of Jesus.

And what about Atlantic Health and St. Barnabas?

Solution: Hospitals should do as United Airlines did with their employees. If you ain't vaccinated, take an unpaid leave until the pandemic is over.

Carry on,
3H

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Hospitals to patients: FUCK YIZ ALL ! (Original Post) 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 OP
Exemption for religion? Sibelius Fan Sep 2021 #1
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is giving out exemptions underpants Sep 2021 #3
I like that kind of exemption IronLionZion Sep 2021 #5
I was disappointed, until I read the link. soldierant Sep 2021 #12
R'Amen to that. underpants Sep 2021 #17
Last I heard, not one religious organization in the US is... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #4
As a former Seventh-day Adventist A Morpheus Felinae Sep 2021 #8
My apologies-- I meant Jehovah's Witnesses. TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #14
You're thinking Jehovah's Witnesses about the blood transfusion, Rabrrrrrr Sep 2021 #13
You're right. I confused the two, and not for the first time... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #16
Spot on!! Rabrrrrrr Sep 2021 #18
it is fucking ridiculous Skittles Sep 2021 #19
st luke was a christian and also supposedly christs dr. hem AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #2
These religious folks have probably gotten other vaccines in their lives IronLionZion Sep 2021 #6
The vast majority of hospitals gab13by13 Sep 2021 #7
the Pope came out in favor of the vaccine and recommending people get it. demigoddess Sep 2021 #20
Yep. Sounds like it's time for some "tough love." calimary Sep 2021 #9
If you fire them I think even dumb fucking Republicans might vaccinate. Although I am johnthewoodworker Sep 2021 #10
Don't assume all believers won't get vaxxed AKwannabe Sep 2021 #11
Christian Scientists are against vacx. 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 #15

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Last I heard, not one religious organization in the US is...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 02:20 PM
Sep 2021

antivax.

Judaism is pro vax, except for a few Satmar communitiea where the local rabbi declared it sinful, against God's plan, or some such thing. That may be changing.

Roman Catholics have problems fetal tissue, but not all vaccines use fetal tissue, and it has to be aborted tissue. It's probsbly the easiest route for an exemption if you push for it.

7th day adventists are against transfusions because of some OT proscription agsinst consuming blood, but have no stand on vax.

Muslims have the same rules about pork as Jews, but it gets dicy-- pork is still unclean, but health is more important.

Other Eastern religions don't have much of pronlem with it that I've found.

So, religious objections are largely bullshit, and just serve to cloud the issue.

8. As a former Seventh-day Adventist
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:57 PM
Sep 2021

I can unequivocally state that SDA's have no objections to blood transfusions. In fact, if there is one positive thing that religion offered is that they are very health oriented. My parents were employed at the SDA owned and operated Loma Linda University Medical Center from it opening back in the late 1960s and I got my first job out of high school in the LLUMC medical records department and it was, and I believe still is, a great organization and pro-transfusion and definitely pro-vaccine.
see pastoredwilson.org

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
13. You're thinking Jehovah's Witnesses about the blood transfusion,
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 04:40 PM
Sep 2021

but otherwise - yes, none of the legitimate religious expressions are anti-vax.

It's only certain of the Evangelical/Fundamentalist Christians that are anti-vax, and those aren't really Christians, at least not in the US: they're really nationalists whose religion is the USA but they like to say "Jesus" a lot. Other countries have their own form of this ridiculous kind of Christianity as well; more than I feel like enumerating here, but the fuckers are all over the place spreading their toxic shit (and now spreading their toxic Covid).

(also, as an aside, Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists are born of the Millerite movement (though JW come about 40 years later), which began in northeastern NY State in the 1830s about the same time Joseph Smith, grand scam artist extraordinaire, was over on the western side of NY state inventing a new-world "religion" called Latter Day Saints)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
16. You're right. I confused the two, and not for the first time...
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 05:26 PM
Sep 2021

but the point still is that no "organized" religion opposes vaxxing.

Occasional rabbis, mullahs, preachers, snake handlers, snake oil salesmen, and other misguided leaders, or just outright crooks and liars may try to convince you otherwise, but they are wrong and probably picking your pocket.

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
6. These religious folks have probably gotten other vaccines in their lives
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021


Most people don't realize that Measles was declared eradicated from the Americas (north and south) until dumbass religious anti-vaxxers brought it back to ruin their kids' lives.

calimary

(81,197 posts)
9. Yep. Sounds like it's time for some "tough love."
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 03:57 PM
Sep 2021

Vaccination or bust. Take yer pick. No jab? No job!

Period.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
10. If you fire them I think even dumb fucking Republicans might vaccinate. Although I am
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 04:00 PM
Sep 2021

impressed with 1% to 3% death rate.

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