I have submitted a request to be a host or cohost of this group

[struggle4progress]

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. If you want to take the lead, I'd be happy to help you out.

[struggle4progress]

2. Either lead or secondary host is fine for me. NC has usually been a quiet forum, but it will be

a 2012 battleground state and we may want to track politics here closely, so this forum could heat up

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. If you get lead, feel free to nominate me for one of your support hosts - it is indeed going to be

quite a time leading up to the big day!

[struggle4progress]

4. As I understand the process, hosts can appoint other hosts. The hierarchy of hosts does, however,

affect removal of hosts: earlier hosts can remove later ones but later ones cannot remove earlier ones

So e.g. the lead host can simply appoint some additional host(s) -- though in some cases it might be wise to obtain group approval

[struggle4progress]

14. I appointed you a host

[NRaleighLiberal]

16. thanks. I've been playing around with my initial host selections....

came off a few of the main forums to give others a chance - stayed on a few, lead host on gardening only at this point - seems manageable.

[Triana]

5. Ok...

Hi s4p! Where the Heck are the smilies or emoticons on this thing?

[struggle4progress]

6. Hey Triana! Haven't seen you for ages!

Here's the smilies list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/index.html

Admins are promising a more user-friendly interface later

[Triana]

7. I've been around. . .

Have just been veewy quiet.

But can't resist bouncing around our new digs here.

[struggle4progress]

8. We should do another Triangle get-together soon!

Voter registration is ongoing too -- which reminds me: you came up in a discussion earlier this week. One of my old activist friends came to town Wednesday and we went out to lunch with another mutual old friend -- who remembered seeing you and me on the street when we were doing some campaign doorknocking over by northgate a few years back

[Triana]

9. Oh yea. I remember that! Boy did I get tired quick!

I'm getting old.

It'll be important again in 2012 to counter all the voter ID bullshit. They're of course trying to pull that crap here, too.

Edit: maybe after the hellOdaze we can have a triangle get-together?

[struggle4progress]

10. We defeated voter ID in the GA last spring by scraping together enough folk in the Senate

to prevent an override of the guv's veto

The wackos then set out to run resolutions from county commissioners asking the GA to pass local bills giving individual counties the authority to enact local voter ID regulations. It's my understanding we have an opinion from the state AG that such local bills wouldn't pass constitutional muster, since voting requirements for statewide offices would vary county-by-county

[Triana]

11. Good. Now you mention I remember seeing that somewhere

But they're doing it in so many other states, it's worrisome for 2012.

We need to vote out the whackos in NC ASAP.

[struggle4progress]

12. There's stuff to do now: we can chat about it after the holidays if you want

[tpsbmam]

13. Works for me! I'm happy to take a backseat in NC

I have to admit that I never get the northerner out of me.....I get to live in the beautiful mountains with tons of other transplants here!

[struggle4progress]

15. I's a gol-durn yankee meself

[Tunkamerica]

19. when i lived in boone we were more worried about the floridiots that came up

in the summer than any northerners


although, i expect there's some overlap there

[unc70]

22. If you need anything translated, I can help

My people were among the very first Euopeans to settle NC. Even know where most of them are buried.

Know a lot of the connections since then that aren't widely documented.

[tpsbmam]

23. Oooooo, I may well need translations!

I have a wonderful friend who's a native Ashevillian. I'm disabled and she's the cousin of a neighbor who's also a native. She started cleaning for me once a week 3 years ago and we've become fast friends, which is wonderful on many levels. One of the ways in which it's wonderful is all of the people who've influenced her before me are conservatives (my neighbor and her adult son are the only rogue liberals/Democrats in the family). I've been working on my conservative friend.....among other things, she happened to be here the day of the awesome Bernie Sanders filibuster! I blasted it on all TVs -- she couldn't get away from it. She thought he made tons of sense and actually said she'd vote for him if he ran here! I explained that he's one of the more liberal legislators and he's one of the few who consistently watches out for regular folks, for the 99%. She's all about Bernie now. And she totally gets that she's part of the 99% and her Republican legislators (and our blue dog Health Shuler) represent the 1% and NOT us! (And yes, I've educated her about #Occupy, and she gets it.)

And occasionally I have to stop her and ask for a translation. She cracks me up when she says she's "fixin' to....." I'll have to get her to remind me of the couple of words I was going to use to confuse the hell out of friends....can't remember where I wrote them down. They were southern doozies!

[unc70]

24. I reckon I might could help

Forming an immediate future using "fixing to" is very similar to using "going to". They are older than the more-formal "will" and "shall" forms which are not all that different linguistically.

Double modals like "might could" are very common in speech, though rare in writing. In this case, think of "might" with the meaning of "probably".

None of these forms are illiterate, though they are less common outside the South. Related forms are common everywhere, and people thing nothing of saying things like, "I used to do that."

Southern spoken English uses a lot subjunctives and even more quasi-subjunctive constructions. These have their roots in the speech of Northern England and of Scotland.

A favorite example of how it can turn out in real conversation:

"If they had just done that, you would have already done been back in business."

[nclib]

17. Hey s4p!

Nice place you have here. Thank you for hosting.

[struggle4progress]

18. Hey! Long no see time!

Triana upthread sez we should all get together in the New Year!

[nclib]

20. Would definitely like to get together to catch up.

I saw you and Triana upthread and I have to say that I really admire all the work you do getting out the vote.

The thing that really gets me now is the redistricting going on. When I think about it or hear about it, my blood pressure starts to rise and I feel so hopeless and helpless. I have to block it and pull away. I don't think I appreciated how good we had it in this state before the republicans took over. I know you hate all this "woe is me" and that's why I so admire how hard you work and all the good you do. Thank you.

Anyway, we should all get together again and complain and plan and have some laughs.

[struggle4progress]

21. Yes! But after the holidays!