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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 04:35 PM Dec 2016

How many jobs do DA supporters think the pipeline would create in North Dakota?

Obviously that belief is the main reason the governor would be going to the mat for the thing(other than having one more chance to stick it to the Sioux).

What is the propaganda job figure that's been spread around out there?

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How many jobs do DA supporters think the pipeline would create in North Dakota? (Original Post) Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP
Choice between bad and worse HassleCat Dec 2016 #1
It's extortion rather than promises. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #2
You have to transport it someway Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #3
My question is, why couldn't they at least have routed the line Ken Burch Dec 2016 #4
They consulted with different tribes over 250 times Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #5
From a cursory reading of that, I could see that the pipeline builders failed to adjust the route Ken Burch Dec 2016 #6
I can't speak to the propaganda Qanisqineq Dec 2016 #7
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Choice between bad and worse
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

What they're saying is the oil is coming through, no matter what. If the pipeline is not built, they will send it by rail. So what they tell the citizens is, "If you don't let us build the pipeline, we will burn down your towns with exploding tank cars." And that's probably just what they will do. They are experts at putting the people between a rock and a hard place.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. You have to transport it someway
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 07:14 PM
Dec 2016

Oil does not arrive to me and you by magic.

The safest way to transport it is by pipeline.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. My question is, why couldn't they at least have routed the line
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 07:20 PM
Dec 2016

so it wasn't at risk of contaminating the rez water supply?

Did they ever actually try to work WITH the Standing Rock Sioux on this, or did they just say "Manifest Destiny, bitch!"

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. From a cursory reading of that, I could see that the pipeline builders failed to adjust the route
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 08:38 PM
Dec 2016

to avoid desecrating the burial ground, and seemed to have pushed ahead on going through the burial grounds while an injunction against further construction was in place.

And they may have consulted with the tribes...but is there any evidence that they actually changed anything in response to what the tribes said during the consultations?

Qanisqineq

(4,826 posts)
7. I can't speak to the propaganda
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 08:48 PM
Dec 2016

as I only recently moved back here. However, I know some people in small towns are all excited about the jobs coming with the pipeline!!!

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