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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:45 PM

Texas doctor with Ebola turns down serum

Dr. Kent Brantly, the Texas doctor who contracted the Ebola virus in West Africa, turned down an experimental serum and asked that it instead by given to another sick mission worker, a post Thursday on the Samaritan’s Purse website says.

Samaritan’s Purse is the organization that employs Brantly and that has been serving as a source of updates on the doctor, who performed his residency at JPS Hospital in Fort Worth.

“Yesterday, an experimental serum arrived in the country, but there was only enough for one person. Dr. Brantly asked that it be given to Nancy Writebol,” said Franklin Graham, president of Samaritan’s Purse in the website posting. “However, Dr. Brantly received a unit of blood from a 14-year-old boy who had survived Ebola because of Dr. Brantly’s care. The young boy and his family wanted to be able to help the doctor that saved his life.”

Brantly and Writebol, a hygienist working at the same hospital, are in stable but grave condition. Brantly took a “slight turn for the worse overnight,” according to the website.

More at http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/07/31/6010018/texas-doctor-with-ebola-turns.html .

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Reply Texas doctor with Ebola turns down serum (Original post)
TexasTowelie Jul 2014 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #1
MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #2
roguevalley Jul 2014 #3
liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #13
freshwest Jul 2014 #4
magical thyme Jul 2014 #5
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #6
Indydem Jul 2014 #7
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #18
AngryDem001 Jul 2014 #8
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #14
AngryDem001 Jul 2014 #21
magical thyme Jul 2014 #9
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #15
magical thyme Jul 2014 #23
CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #29
WinkyDink Aug 2014 #30
SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2014 #10
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #17
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #16
blackspade Jul 2014 #11
Raster Jul 2014 #12
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #19
Raster Jul 2014 #26
AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #20
DhhD Jul 2014 #22
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #25
DhhD Jul 2014 #27
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #28
DhhD Aug 2014 #31
magical thyme Jul 2014 #24

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:48 PM

1. I hope he will recover. This is such a horrible disease. n/t

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:52 PM

2. Such incredible bravery.

 

And such sadness.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:14 PM

3. contrast the goodness of this doctor with the dork in Belgium

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:05 PM

13. I was just thinking the same thing.

I am not at all in favor of Israel's current government and its devastating, unwarranted, murderous actions in Gaza, but the Belgian doctor's blatant anti-semitism in refusing to treat a Jewish patient because of that is pure hateful inhumanity and makes him no better than those whose actions he thinks he's "protesting."

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:19 PM

4. Hope he survives. And some people really do take the mission to help others seriously...

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:56 PM

5. the next few days are critical

 

From everything I've read, it is at about this point where patients either begin recovering or, more commonly, start straight down.

Healing vibes to this brave, brave young doctor. Hopefully the boy's blood will contain antibodies against the virus.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:03 PM

6. He will not recover. And if a cure were as simple as blood from an Ebola survivor....well, it isn't.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:18 PM

7. Such hope and optimism.

 

He has a chance.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:28 PM

18. Such naivete about the media. I HOPE he recovers; I DOUBT that eventuality.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:28 PM

8. Geez. Have just a LITTLE hope, will ya?

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Response to AngryDem001 (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:23 PM

14. You must be under a misapprehension that my opinion can affect these events.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:46 PM

21. No it can't. But a little optimism can't hurt.

That's just MY opinion, though.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:32 PM

9. wow. So far more than 40% have recovered

 

While he was exhausted and weak at the outset, his symptoms were identified and treatment begun early on. Early identification and treatment are what have lowered the mortality rate from 90% to the current 60%.

He is receiving more than just the blood donation from the former patient who recovered. He has been on supportive treatment from the get-go.

His condition has gone up and down and back up again since the onset. He had a slight turn for the better yesterday, than a slight turn worse overnight.

That does not mean he will not recover. It means his body is fighting. The next few days will be critical. The blood donation may or may not help, but it is not the only treatment he is getting.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:24 PM

15. One of us will be correct. I'm simply of the belief that we have not been told the whole truth (are

 

we ever?).

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:54 PM

23. it really depends on why they gave him a unit of blood

 

If his H&H have dropped below normal, that would indicate internal bleeding. In that case it is likely too late, and this is a last ditch effort to do something, anything.

But much of what they are doing is experimental. They may have given him a unit from the patient that survived specifically to see if introducing antibodies will help knock the virus back and buy him time to produce more of his own.

I don't think we've been specifically lied to regarding his condition, which continues to be stable but grave. I do think our government has been less than forthcoming about the risks should this reach our shores, and the chances of that happening.

I live in a tourist area and we are in our high season, so easily half the patients we treat right now are from "away," which includes from all over the world. I work in lab tech -- co-worker and I were talking about it just yesterday. She is watching, too. We are certainly concerned.

I did see one flat out lie today, where our government supposedly has notified medical staff what to watch out for. I know I haven't yet seen anything in our lab. It certainly would have been passed along, and they forward my work email to my home.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:39 AM

29. I an optimist, but not about Ebola...

I have doubts about the claim that 40 percent survive it and 60 percent die.

This particular outbreak seems so virulent. It has caused 670 deaths, thus far and is the worst Ebola outbreak to date.

I also think it's odd that these three doctors were following CDC safety guidelines and they are infected. Furthermore, they all became infected during a similar timeframe. Is it possible that this Ebola strain is becoming more virulent, or possibly airborne?

If that 40-percent-survival stat is true, wouldn't it be fair to say that around 1,200 people have been infected (given the 670 death rate)? That's a lot of infected people. Seems as if this strain is packing a bigger punch.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:17 AM

30. You are correct: the INFECTED is the number to know. And some recovered, but will their contacts?

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:37 PM

10. 1 in ten survive - three in ten for this type i have been told

 

not odds i care to face - but there is hope

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:25 PM

17. Feel free to hold some. Me? I'm not, pardon the pun, sanguine.

 

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:25 PM

16. I've read the same, I assure you.

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:58 PM

11. Actual heros.

I hope that they recover along with all their patients.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 03:59 PM

12. Dr. Brantly is a living example of The Good Samaritan.

I am not Christian. And I do not pray. However, I think I will make an exception. Bless his heart.

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Response to Raster (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:30 PM

19. A brave and altruistic man who deserves our utmost respect. Daniels are few; lions' dens are many.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:41 PM

26. I could not agree more with everything you've said.

He certainly has my utmost respect and every good vibe I can send his way.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:33 PM

20. He is very brave, but

 

if he dies many will not receive care because there are very few doctors who are willing to do what he has been doing.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:33 PM

22. Ebola Vaccine trials to start in September with results by January 2015.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025316867
This is a cross post from GD.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/31/ebola-vaccine-trial/13404609/
This is the study site link as a short cut from the DU cross post in GD.

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Response to DhhD (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:50 PM

25. And who shall be brave enough to bell that vaccine cat? Not I, said the suburban mouse.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:14 PM

27. Same type of people that accepted the first rabies vaccine after being bitten. Ebola like Rabies

takes a little time to develop into a disease. During that time a vaccine has time to make molecules that provide immunity or attack and/or kill the virus.

One of the source sites up thread, says that the rabies vaccine prevents Ebola in other primates. And that the rabies virus can be airborne in an areas of large bat concentrations.

Some South Americans have natural immunity to rabies. That has been under study for a while now. Perhaps you would not mind putting the topic sentence of this paragraph in a search box, if you can.

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Response to DhhD (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:34 PM

28. Um, I KNOW there have BEEN such volunteers, since vaccines do, in fact, exist. I'm just sayin'---who

 

now?

YOU?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #28)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:58 AM

31. Yes, if the Ebola virus gets out. Yes, if the Bird Flu gets out. Yes, if SARS gets out. Yes as the

multiple-covalent Fall Flu Shots are all ready out because the seasonal flu viruses are already active in the human population. Sounds like it is time for the government to provide immunization based on cell membrane and virus structure that allows attachment and injection into a host cell. It is an immunization against the molecular structure as well as the RNA core that reproduces the virus structure (virus is not a living organism).

Molecular structure restrictive enzymes, already exit for HIV; like for AIDS. there is a vaccination for Chicken pox and measles virus. Monoclonal antibodies can be grown in vitro.

The biochemistry is at your fingertips here on the internet. That includes what else in loaded into the injection or nasal spray. Immunization for small pox, is a scratch on the skin. And a sugar cube can be used for the polio vaccine.

http://jvi.asm.org/content/77/18/9733

https://www.google.com/search?q=ebola+virus+structure+and+function&sa=X&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=ZrjbU_n7OsuPyASom4LoAw&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=636

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:13 PM

24. Nancy Writebol's condition has worsened despite the serum

 

However, on Thursday charity SIM said in a statement that Mrs Writebol's condition had worsened, despite the serum.

Mrs Writebol is in stable, but serious condition and is receiving an experimental drug that doctors hope will better address her condition, the charity said.


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