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TexasTowelie

(112,100 posts)
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:49 PM Oct 2014

San Antonio Police Department Issues Thousands of Tickets for Homelessness

Data and records obtained by the Current show that between January 1, 2013, and early October of this year the San Antonio Police Department issued more than 12,000 citations for violations of city laws aimed at discouraging the homeless and poor from hanging out downtown or asking for donations. The crimes include aggressive solicitation—seeking donations in an intimidating manner—but also any solicitation within forbidden zones, camping in a public place, littering, spitting, urinating or defecating in public, disorderly conduct and sitting or lying in the right of way.

All of these violations are Class C misdemeanors, some punishable by fines of up to $200 apiece and others up to $500 each.

In the recent debate over San Antonio Police Chief William McManus’ ill-fated proposal to ticket individuals who give to panhandlers, the police maintained that they are focused on a class of individuals who aren’t truly homeless, but who are essentially low-level con artists, seeking charity that they then spend on cigarettes, drugs and alcohol.

“I’ve been working the streets for 40 years, and in four cities, and I see what happens to the majority of money that goes to panhandlers,” McManus told the Current in September. “A few people may need a buck to go buy a burger, but the vast majority of people are using that money to buy alcohol, drugs and cigarettes.”

Read more: http://sacurrent.com/news/sapd-issues-thousands-of-tickets-for-homelessness-1.1774819

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San Antonio Police Department Issues Thousands of Tickets for Homelessness (Original Post) TexasTowelie Oct 2014 OP
There is a way to solve the drug problem for the most part Kalidurga Oct 2014 #1
i have no trust left in many police samsingh Oct 2014 #2
Does San Antonio also run privatized prisons? procon Oct 2014 #3
No, I do not believe that they do. TexasTowelie Oct 2014 #4
I wanted to add TexasTowelie Oct 2014 #5
Correction: Texas has an alimony-lite type of arrangement Ilsa Oct 2014 #7
Thanks, it looks like it can also last for more than three years. TexasTowelie Oct 2014 #8
Well gee, that should solve the problem. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #6

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. There is a way to solve the drug problem for the most part
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:51 PM
Oct 2014

but, it isn't by the draconian punishments that are so popular with the law and order at any cost even if it makes no sense crowd.

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. Does San Antonio also run privatized prisons?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014

There a big surge in 'debtors prisons" where poor people get charged for a series of petty offenses and they can't pay the fines, so the state imprisons them where the fines continue to accumulate for each infraction and result in increasingly long imprisonments. Factor in homeless people who suffer with mental health and addiction issues and it's easy for a profit prison to rack up lots of added charges to bill the taxpayers for wholesale warehousing the poor.

TexasTowelie

(112,100 posts)
4. No, I do not believe that they do.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:01 PM
Oct 2014

In most Texas municipalities they let people who are unable to pay their fines stay in jail and give them credit of $50 each day so that they eventually are released and the jails do not become over-crowded.

TexasTowelie

(112,100 posts)
5. I wanted to add
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:07 PM
Oct 2014

that Texas is generally forgiving towards debtors and deadbeats. The only instances I know that they will garnish wages are for taxes and child support. There is no income tax and also no alimony in Texas. I don't believe that there are any debtor prisons within Texas either.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
7. Correction: Texas has an alimony-lite type of arrangement
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:47 PM
Oct 2014

for up to about three years, IIRC. I can't remember when it was codified. I think it's called "spousal maintenance."

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
6. Well gee, that should solve the problem.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:24 PM
Oct 2014

Those tickets will teach those homeless people to go out and get homes.

/sarcasm

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