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Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:16 PM

Gun Enthusiast Shoots Wife Dead. Hard To Believe, HUH?



SPRING, TEXAS -- A Texas man called 911 on Sunday morning and admitted to shooting and killing his wife, according to authorities. As it turns out, Martin Gaytan, 24, has quite a fascination for guns and he shared that enthusiasm on Facebook.

Authorities say that Gaytan told them that he and his wife, Monica Gaytan, also 24, had an argument at their home around 5:00 a.m. at their home in Spring, Texas.

Martin Gaytan claims Monica Gaytan pointed a gun at him. Martin Gaytan allegedly told investigators that he took the gun away from his wife and shot her multiple times, ABC 13 reports.

Monica Gaytan was pronounced dead at the scene.

A glance through their Facebook posts reveals a fascination with guns.

Read more: http://freakoutnation.com/2014/12/gun-enthusiast-shoots-wife-dead-hard-to-believe-huh/

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Reply Gun Enthusiast Shoots Wife Dead. Hard To Believe, HUH? (Original post)
TexasTowelie Dec 2014 OP
valerief Dec 2014 #1
TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #2
TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #4
TexasProgresive Dec 2014 #6
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #3
Hoyt Dec 2014 #5
Ilsa Dec 2014 #7
Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10
Ilsa Dec 2014 #12
kioa Dec 2014 #13
Ilsa Dec 2014 #14
kioa Dec 2014 #22
Ilsa Dec 2014 #23
kioa Dec 2014 #24
Ilsa Dec 2014 #25
kioa Dec 2014 #26
Ilsa Dec 2014 #16
kioa Dec 2014 #17
louis-t Dec 2014 #27
kioa Dec 2014 #28
ashling Dec 2014 #8
Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #9
kioa Dec 2014 #11
Ilsa Dec 2014 #15
kioa Dec 2014 #18
Ilsa Dec 2014 #19
Ilsa Dec 2014 #20
kioa Dec 2014 #21

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:18 PM

1. Well, ammosexuals will say, if she pointed a fork at him, he'd have forked multiple times, too.

Sick fuckin' bastards, both the shooters and the defenders.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:20 PM

2. Speechless, Monica rest in peace

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:24 PM

4. Reading the comments is really cheery.

Apparently he kept his guns framed on the living room wall.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:29 PM

6. And she looks so happy in that pic

him not so much.
Gun framed on the living room wall???

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:23 PM

3. There are lots of people who do not need guns, they are not smart enough to handle the guns properly

Just more killing, the common item is usually a gun, where does it stop.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:28 PM

5. Price gun fanciers expect society to pay for their obsession.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:55 PM

7. I wish they'd all shoot each other. Remainder could

Be locked away for life. It might truly save innocent people and children.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:37 PM

10. What would save women and children is the absence of killing machines and the NRA mindset cretins.


This mindset :


In Facebook posts obtained by Freak Out Nation, Gaytan suggested that guns were necessary for "protection" from foreign and domestic governments, home defense, to fight "muggers and rapists," and because "it's my right."

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:01 PM

12. The home defense argument is only valid if you

Sleep with one eye open or in shifts. Alarm systems will almost always scare off intruders. My shotgun didn't do me any good when I had a home intruder. So I got rid of the gun.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:26 PM

13. The CDC report commissioned by Pres Obama disagrees.

 

Guns are used for self-defense often
"Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year … in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008,”


and effectively
"Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”


http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/06/handguns_suicides_mass_shootings_deaths_and_self_defense_findings_from_a.html


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Response to kioa (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:56 PM

14. Well, it didn't help me during my home invasion.

Glad everyone is able to keep them locked and loaded and by the bed while they sleep with an eye open.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:21 PM

22. Not everyone's situation is exactly like yours was.

 

No one is saying that a gun makes you impervious to danger, but the CDC did find that a gun helps in self-defense often & effectively.

If you don't want a gun, that's your right.
All we are asking is that you allow others to keep the right to make same decision for themselves.
I don't think that is an unreasonable request.....

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Response to kioa (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:38 PM

23. I'd like to see gun enthusiasts get real about kids and guns,

Proper storage, proper holstering, and not be so paranoid and afraid of their neighbors and passersby that they have to be ready to shoot in a split second. I'm tired of seeing them brush off an accidental shooting death as a tragedy, then ignore the problem that will repeat over and over, frequently to the detriment of children.

My lifetime experience includes knowing dead kids from accidents, kids with a dead parent, and other people's lives ruined because they thought that having an emergency weapon would keep them safe. For me, the accidental shootings tip the scales toward remaining gun-free.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:34 PM

24. You just accused others of being paranoid, while insisting

 

that you need to be able to stick your nose into everyone else's home because of something that is both extraordinarily rare & has been declining for a century.

There is a reason why those that aren't painfully ignorant about guns don't support your policy suggestions.

Educate yourself. Stop being afraid.
Stop getting the shit kicked out of the Democratic Party because of your irrational fear.

I promise, life in the USA isn't scary. Quit letting the anti-rights fear mongering propaganda of Bloomberg take advantage of your abject ignorance.
Get out more. Learn something.

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Response to kioa (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:04 AM

25. I'm not afraid. That's why I don't feel the need to be

Armed everywhere I go. That's why I don't have guns around my children: they aren't necessary. It's an accident waiting to happen. I know of too many families of "responsible gun owners" that have buried a family member.

Stop pushing me to go buy a gun.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:07 AM

26. Good. Then I can only assume that you are against the AWB & other gun control nonsense that

 

contributed to the midterm debacle.

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Response to kioa (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:05 PM

16. From the report:

The United States has an indisputable gun violence problem. According to the report, “the U.S. rate of firearm-related homicide is higher than that of any other industrialized country: 19.5 times higher than the rates in other high-income countries.”

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:15 PM

17. Also from the report: there are more cases of self-defense

 

than aggressive uses & guns are effective for self defense.

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Response to kioa (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:49 PM

27. "studies" most likely funded by the NRA.

It's right out of the their book of talking points.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #27)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:00 PM

28. The CDC is as credible an organization as there is.

 

Your accusation is ludicrous and without merit.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:57 PM

8. Wife enthusiast?

not so much

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 08:19 PM

9. When a gun is around, and there are 300 million around, arguments become funerals.

Lots and lots of funerals.

Rest in peace, Monica, there are good people at work ridding the country of this plague of killing machines.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:20 AM

11. Texas has a lower murder rate & more guns per capita than California.

 

27 other states with more guns per capita also have a lower murder rate than California (a state given top rankings for stringent gun control by the Brady Group)

Your thesis is demonstratively wrong.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord

http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm

http://m.ocregister.com/articles/gun-235128-state-laws.html

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Response to kioa (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:57 PM

15. Are you an NRA troll? nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:17 PM

18. Are you a Bloomberg troll?

 

I'm not "trolling".
I'm stating facts.

Why don't you try to do the same?

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Response to kioa (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:54 PM

19. I notice where you spend your time posting.

Looks like you are here for the purpose of pushing gun sales.

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Response to kioa (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:06 PM

20. By the way, the category of "Murder" doesn't include

The other deaths from guns, such as suicides and accidents which includes the killing of children.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:16 PM

21. Accidents? From the same CDC report commissioned by Pres. Obama

 

“Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

A person is literally 100 times more likely to die of accidental causes by anything that's not a gun.

Suicide? Ask Robin Williams, France, Japan or any one of the 30 other nations with both a higher suicide rate & less guns per capita about that.

I can assure you, neither guns nor life in the USA is scary.
Get out more. Educate yourself.
There's a reason that gun control has less support in areas with more guns per capita.

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