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Related: About this forumChris Bell: Wake up, Texas Democrats. You’re about to blow it.
Disclaimer. I know Chris Bell and have worked on a couple of his campaigns including a run for SD 17 State Senate run against a truly repugnant republican a couple of years ago. Chris is currently in deep do do with Texas Democrats for backing the GOP candidate in the Houston Mayor's runoff. I and others worked hard to get Sylvester Turner elected mayor of Houston instead the tea party hacked backed by Chris Bell
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Chris makes some good comments about the reason why Texas democrats need to vote for Hillary Clinton http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20160219-chris-bell-wake-up-texas-democrats.-youre-about-to-blow-it..ece#commentsOuterWrapper It seems that someone forgot to read the last three paragraphs of the article
She will also allow us to win here in Texas. When more and more Republicans start looking for a new home, I assure you they will be far more willing to join a party led by Hillary Clinton than a party led by Bernie Sanders.
I completely understand youthful idealism; I had plenty of it. And I certainly understand the anger that has turned many Sanders way. But idealism and anger are not going to change our state; that is only going to happen when Democrats once again become competitive statewide. Along with a lot of others, I am so tired of toiling in the trenches for the Democratic Party and then watching as we form a circular firing squad.
We need to seize this opportunity weve been handed. We need to be relevant once again.
Like many Texas Democrats, including Chris Bell, I am supporting Hillary Clinton because she can help turn Texas blue. If Carnival Cruz or Trump is the nominee, then we will be picking up a number of GOP voters who are too sane to vote for Carnival Cruz or Trump.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)BlueCollar
(3,859 posts)And have yet to meet a sane Republican...
In my experience Texas "republicans" are bigoted, ethically challenged and morally bankrupt.
Regardless of the nominee, Texas's self-proclaimed "conservatives" are not going to vote for a Democrat.
If Jesus Christ himself appeared in Texas and ran as a Democrat he would lose.
Sorry Chris... I have been to this rodeo before. I'll stick with Sanders...at least he stands on principle which is more than I can say for most Texas Democratic politicians.
ccinamon
(1,696 posts)in fact, from my experiences, half of the democrats (elected and voters) are really "moderate Republicans"....they want no tax money to help the needy, the want to let businesses screw the workers and the customers, they pander to the conservatives ---rarely a real liberal or progressive idea or candidate to be encouraged or promoted.
It's always, Texas and Texans are conservative, it won't work here....well, fuck it all --- no one has tried anything remotely close to liberal in 20 years!!! How do we know it won't work? But, lets stick with the same old failed ideas, people, and policies.
Sorry, lots of frustration here!
BlueCollar
(3,859 posts)If you are not frustrated you have abdicated
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Boomer
(4,168 posts)The only way to defeat my enemy is to become my enemy.
Personally, I don't want Republicans in my party. I want Democrats in my party.
ccinamon
(1,696 posts)How do we get the Dixiecrats and moderate Republicans out of our party and return it to the liberal and progressive entity it once was?
I have no idea...I just keep pointing out to people I know that there are a lot of DINOs in our county!
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Paladin
(28,252 posts)The Texas group has devolved into a branch of the General Discussion: Primaries forum. I'll pass on this, thank you very much.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)all this fretting & tut-tutting over those of us voting for Bernie makes me wonder what the fuck the Hillary camp is so damn afraid of. You aren't supposed to "punch down."
antigop
(12,778 posts)Gothmog
(145,129 posts)The party itself is neutral in the race but many Texas Democrats are hopeful that a Clinton/Castro ticket vs Trump or Carnival Cruz will be a good race for Texas
antigop
(12,778 posts)ccinamon
(1,696 posts)We will just have to work harder and spreading the Bern!!!
Half of my female friends over 60 are voting for Hillary because they want a female president before they die....yep, they have told me this....I pointed out that that voting for Hillary because she is female IS sexism, they don't agree....and a few now say that she is the "most qualified". Yeah, right.
antigop
(12,778 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)from both sides, maybe some dems won't show up at the polls. I will be there, regardless the candidate, but that is because I am stubborn (and avoiding GDP like the plague).
antigop
(12,778 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)it is never good.
BlueCollar
(3,859 posts)The national Democratic Party wrote us off years ago. Texas redistricting met no opposition at the national level...
Delay and Army rewrote the statutes and The National Dem party did nothing.
I remember raising the issue of black box fraud with the Tarrant County Dem chair and getting nowhere...
antigop
(12,778 posts)She has had lots of titles, and given tons of speeches,,,,but actual accomplishments, very little.
She is mostly all talk, no action.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016Clinton received one more since 2-21-16 in, pick a card.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)If Bernie does win the popular vote delegates, they *better* flip.
So they are irrelevant except as talking points and campaign surrogates, and, IMHO, should not even be listed in the current delegate count.