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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:06 AM

Senators Trying to Determine if Abortion Bill Passed (update 2:45 a.m.)

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Texas senators are trying to get to the bottom of whether Republicans successfully pushed through a vote on Senate Bill 5, the omnibus abortion restriction bill, ahead of their midnight deadline.

Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, says the bill passed at 12:02 a.m.; if that's true, the vote may not withstand legal scrutiny.

"It's pretty conclusive that it didn't pass," said Whitmire.

But the Senate still has not officially adjourned sine die. When Senators resume floor proceedings, Whitmire said Democrats will call a point of order on the motion to vote on a bill after the midnight deadline.

More at http://www.texastribune.org/2013/06/26/dems-approach-abortion-victory-special-session-wan/ .

[font color=green]While I know that Lois Kolkhorst is the representative for Brenham in the Texas House, I didn't pay much attention to who the state senator for this district was. I just looked at the map and discovered that in Texas Senate District 18, the senator is Glenn Hegar--the repuke that introduced Senate Bill 5!

I predict that I will be sending a letter to the senator does not represent me!

Why am I so unfortunate and what did I do to deserve these two assholes not looking after my interests in the Texas House and Texas Senate?

BTW, I also strike out with Michael McCaul in the U.S. House along with Cornyn and Cruz in the U.S. Senate. [/font]

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TexasTowelie Jun 2013 OP
blogslut Jun 2013 #1
onestepforward Jun 2013 #3
blogslut Jun 2013 #5
onestepforward Jun 2013 #6
TDale313 Jun 2013 #2
NoPasaran Jun 2013 #7
TDale313 Jun 2013 #10
onestepforward Jun 2013 #8
TDale313 Jun 2013 #9
TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #11
TDale313 Jun 2013 #13
Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #4
TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #12
Melissa G Jun 2013 #14
onestepforward Jun 2013 #15
Melissa G Jun 2013 #17
sonias Jun 2013 #18
Melissa G Jun 2013 #19
onestepforward Jun 2013 #20
Melissa G Jun 2013 #21
TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #16

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:10 AM

1. As I told blogslut jr., if the republicans claimed this bill passed...

A judge will slap an injunction on it so fast, it'll make them walk funny.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:19 AM

3. What if that judge is a Rep.

and rules partisan? That's what I'm worried about.

I'm so proud of our Democrats and I sure hope they/we prevail.

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Response to onestepforward (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:23 AM

5. I think the Deomocrats will file with a proper court

It will be our suit to file.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:24 AM

6. Good point.

Thank you!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:14 AM

2. Can I ask a dumb question?

Even if it didn't pass before midnight, seeing as the Republicans seem to have the votes, is there a reason they couldn't just bring it up again? I'm thrilled it may have been stopped for now, but feels like this is more a delay than a potential win. Unless I'm missing something.

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:27 AM

7. The special session is over

It would have to be brought up again in another special. . . which I expect the Governor for Life will call anyway since Dewhurst's pigheadedness assured that two other important bills never made it to the floor.

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Response to NoPasaran (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:32 AM

10. Thanks. Makes sense. n/t

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:28 AM

8. If the Democrats were successful in stopping the bill this time,

they could do it again. Plus, I think it will take some steam out of the Reps going into round two and they will be facing even more protesters.

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Response to onestepforward (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:31 AM

9. Yeah, good points. Thanks. n/t

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:33 AM

11. The special session ended.

That means that the governor would have to call another special session. He may decide to do so anyway since a $2 billion transportation infrastructure bill and a bill allowing 17-year-olds to be subjected to the death penalty also died this session because of this crappy bill.

I doubt that the death penalty bill would have risen to the point of requiring a special session, but the transportation bill has popular support by both parties. The governor could add abortion legislation to another special session and two other abortion-related bills that died due to calendar considerations could also be resurrected. However, the question in the mind of most voters is whether abortion related bills rise to the emergency status needed to be handled in special session. Texas taxpayers may not look favorably on spending another $1.2 million to hold another special session after how this session concluded.

The bills would have to be reintroduced and I'm sure that the rallying from both sides would gain further attention on both a state and national stage. This may also interfere with Governor Perry's plan to announce his decision as to whether he would run again for governor and/or president which he promised to reveal by July 1. It also effects all of the other candidates down the ballot as they jockey for new jobs.

I believe that if the governor decides to call another special session he would wait until after July 4 and it would begin in the July 8-10 range. Heated discussions in the heat of a Texas summer are things that most Texans try to avoid, although I doubt that Perry is intelligent enough to realize that since he relies on special sessions to get the state's business accomplished each term.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:41 AM

13. Thank you for the great explanation. n/t

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:20 AM

4. The AP has a video of the time stamp on the website changing from 6-26 to 6-25.

Can these people really be this stupid? Don't answer that.

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Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:39 AM

12. Yes they are that stupid.

And your question could not go unanswered!

It's also clear on the video that the Senate is not in order and the Chair stated so within the last ten minutes when he made a request to obtain order and said he would suspend the roll call to do so.

I predict that Republicans will try to press their case and spend millions to lose not only on the constitutionality of the legislation, but also on the constitutionality of how their proceedings were held during the past week during the House committee meetings and House debate.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:24 AM

14. We Won!

I was there at 2:30 when a woman off the floor came out waving the Texas flag for the second time to confirm that we won. That was an hour ago and I am going to sleep now.
More tomorrow.

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Response to Melissa G (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:37 AM

15. Thank you for being there!

Can't wait to hear more!

Sleep well!

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Response to onestepforward (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:56 PM

17. Still a bit bleary. (Had an early meeting, please excuse any incoherence.)

I have been there for the time when we were turned away in the house with over 300 people in line who had driven from all over the state to testify which was last Thursday night into 3-4 am Friday morning.

Sunday, we sat in the house gallery late and into Monday morning watching the ludicrous debate with the inept Lauberburg making her blunders, esp the rape kit remark. House Dems did their best to stall it going to the Senate as slowly as possible so as to give the senate Dems the best set up situation for a filibuster.

Monday, was a lunch time call to action to watch Dem senators who were successful in avoiding a rules suspension which would have bypassed the 24 hour wait rule between a bill going from the House to the Senate.

Cecile Richards from the national Planned Parenthood flew down to put a national face on the early 9 am Tuesday rally. I had to be at work through the early rally. I got there Tuesday around five. I was going earlier, but my two grown daughters wanted to come with. We all three stayed until about 2:30 am Wednesday morning.

It was fairly packed at 5, totally full in the Senate gallery with a very long line snaking around into the rotunda. I wasn't planning on staying long since I had an evening meeting, so we went down to the overflow auditorium to watch what was happening on the big screen, which was fairly empty at 5. It soon filled to over flowing as well. Reports estimate the crowd in and around the capitol at close to 10,000 folks at the peak times. Wendy Davis and the attacks on her were 'must see TV' and given the importance of what was happening it quickly became clear, we would be staying until the end.

The protesters wearing orange all week have been making a point of being extremely kind, courteous and rule observant for the entire time. We only got rowdy when the rules had been so run over by the republicans that rowdiness and potential arrest were our only option for stopping the bill. This happened about 11:45pm Tuesday. The republican senators were going back on their commitments and basically ignoring the Dems and precluding them from doing the filibuster or anything else that would have been their rightful response. It was very sad, infuriating and difficult to watch happening.

People from the gallery responded and loudly. Followed by the hallway, rotunda and auditorium at least. We could hear all those shouts from where I was at underground in the Capitol extension. There may have also been noise on the South Steps. The chant in the auditorium for 15 minutes was call and response. "Who's House? Our House." It continued unabated until just after midnight, when we were sure the legal deadline had passed and we waited in the auditorium to see what they would do. First, they rammed the vote through and dated it before midnight despite the 12:02 time. That was later argued intensely and re thought as we waited outside on the South steps chanting Keep it safe, Keep it Legal and other relevant chants making our position clear to those Senators acting off camera and off mike inside. They ceded us victory at about 2:30, but reminded us they would be back soon and they will be.

I believe the courtesy we extended to the Texas Rangers were one of the reasons there were only 3 arrests. Sadly, one older long term Dem activist in the auditorium suffered an alleged stoke watching the irritating proceedings at 9 pm. She was quickly cared for and taken to a hospital and her family notified. Our prayers and well wishes go out to her.




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Response to Melissa G (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:38 PM

18. Beautiful!

Thanks for the first hand report Melissa! And for being there to represent!

I think Anne M. is fine. At least that is what I hear. She is in the hospital but supposedly doing well.

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Response to sonias (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:54 PM

19. Thanks for the update on Anne M, sonias

I missed seeing you and others at the meeting, but I know we all stood with Wendy last night all over Travis County and the whole US of A.

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Response to Melissa G (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:30 PM

20. Thank you for sharing your experience!

Wow, up to 10,000 in and around the capital! I wished I could have been there. I appreciate every single person who showed up.


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Response to onestepforward (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:21 AM

21. 10,000,was one activist report I heard while in the auditorium listening to twitter updates.

I have no other source for that number. Media, who historically under represent, said 3,000. There were easily 1000 or more wandering around just the auditorium and lounge room we had in the extension which is underground from the main part of the capitol. Photos from friends had lines wound around the 3 large rooms in the capitol rotunda and lines out the south steps. I can't speak from personal experience because I was too riveted to the video feed in the auditorium.

One thing I did not mention earlier was about some House testimony (paraphrasing here) when first Dawna Dukes said she had served a mere 20 years and never seen the like of the stunts the House was pulling and neither had Senfronia Thompson, who has served in the House for over 40 years. Senfronia took the podium and made a statement that we were never going back to the days of these and then she brought out a coat hanger and hung it on the microphone as she spoke. Other Dem reps gathered around her and the cameras all focused in. Dawna Dukes interrupted for an inquiry and remarked that the capitol's audio and live feed had remarkably gone off line at that time and asked to be notified when it went back on. Seems to me it was about the time the coat hanger went away.

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Response to Melissa G (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:39 AM

16. Cause for jubilation

and also time for reflection. Just like the Republicans keep trying to repeal the ACA in the US House of Representatives, we can expect them to come back full force to shove this Neanderthalic legislation up the uterus of Texas women again and again.

It's a shame that abortion has been outlawed in 120th trimester and beyond...

But let's celebrate what we can while we can! Kudos to all of the legislators and citizens that won this battle in the War on Women.

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