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Paul Ryan PAC Steals Security Clearance Application (Original Post) Dave in VA Aug 2018 OP
I want to say unbelievable PatSeg Aug 2018 #1
Well ... Daddy J Aug 2018 #2
This is absolutely prosecutable and better be. Is there no sanctity anymore? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #3
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #4
It is against the law, criminal watoos Aug 2018 #5
There's no way to get that without fingerprints roscoeroscoe Aug 2018 #6
Glad to hear it FakeNoose Aug 2018 #13
inexcusable bonzotex Aug 2018 #7
They're doing things Russian style now. Whatever it takes. blueinredohio Aug 2018 #8
Kick for exposure Angry Dragon Aug 2018 #9
What law won't they break? Duppers Aug 2018 #10
Donate to Abigail Spanberger here: NBachers Aug 2018 #11
kick & rec. nt Ilsa Aug 2018 #12
The info on the SF86 is mundane DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #14
Mundane to whom? watoos Aug 2018 #15
Filled one out DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #20
From section 21 and on, it is not mundane at all. mn9driver Aug 2018 #17
Not mundane at all. SCRUBDASHRUB Aug 2018 #18
K&R foe visibility!! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #16
Scumbags. Nitram Aug 2018 #19

Daddy J

(11 posts)
2. Well ...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:59 AM
Aug 2018

If ya can't win fair and square, run as a Republican. Lying, cheating & stealing are long held principles. Just ask my congressman, Scott Taylor. [link:http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/scott-taylor-staffers-fraudulent-signatures|

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
3. This is absolutely prosecutable and better be. Is there no sanctity anymore?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:01 AM
Aug 2018

Thats a FEDERAL SECURITY APPLICATION! It has absolutely everything about someone that was given under the proviso that it was to be sheltered under lock and key. We cannot allow this wholesale reaming of the security branch of this govt to be crippled by the russians through don and his minions. It's absolutely unheard of and if this is allowed to stand, will set a precedent that will never be set back to trust worthiness. This is appalling.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. It is against the law, criminal
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:27 AM
Aug 2018

for whoever stole the classified information, but it is also criminal for Ryan's super pac and anyone else to have released the classified information to the public.

Democrats need to raise holy hell over this, need to demand action immediately be brought against Ryan's super pac.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
13. Glad to hear it
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:17 AM
Aug 2018

I hope they nail somebody really high up. This is outrageous. If they get away with it this time there's no telling what the Repukes will do next.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. The info on the SF86 is mundane
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:25 AM
Aug 2018

It could easily be found from other public sources. The biggest issue is medical history which is covered by HIPPA.

SF86 is covered by the Privacy Act, but there are tons of exceptions.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
15. Mundane to whom?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:56 AM
Aug 2018

They used the information that she taught at an Islamic school and of course they labeled the school as a terrorist institution.

Mundane or not, should we overlook people stealing classified information, should we also overlook the people who received the classified information and publicized it?

With all due respect, the biggest issue is not medical history, it is criminality, it is breaking the law.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
20. Filled one out
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 04:00 PM
Aug 2018

when I was assigned to a classified program. I had an interview, too, but before my clearance was granted, the program where I was to work was canceled and I never officially got top secret clearance.

Go read the form to see how many exeptions there are allowing release of information. I spent 25+ years working for Uncle Sam and never assumed anything was private.

mn9driver

(4,425 posts)
17. From section 21 and on, it is not mundane at all.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:12 AM
Aug 2018

Psychological counseling, drug use, alcohol use, any police contact ever, these are questions that must be answered truthfully....

With the clear understanding that the information will NEVER be disclosed to anyone without an official need to know.

This is criminal, and it undermines the whole security clearance system.

SCRUBDASHRUB

(7,252 posts)
18. Not mundane at all.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:14 AM
Aug 2018

Information demanded in the form includes any colleges or universities attended over the past three years, and an account of the last ten years of the individuals employment, ties to foreign nationals and governments, overseas travel, a list of past residences, etc.[2] Failing to disclose information on the form is a federal offense punishable with a five-year prison sentence for each individual omission.[3]

More info. here:

https://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/sf86.pdf

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