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Wanna know why Scott Walker has the support of 50% of the voters in Wisconsin? (Original Post) Scuba May 2012 OP
Spot on! snacker May 2012 #1
let's hope it comes back to haunt them! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #2
Walker needs to be made an example of. tcaudilllg May 2012 #16
Right on Scuba: Wellstone ruled May 2012 #3
I fear that is exactly why. And the hate is against those who never harmed them at all. freshwest May 2012 #4
Malcolm X understood perfectly. Scuba May 2012 #7
Too bad he was a 'black radical Muslim' so he wasn't heard. Telling the truth is dangerous, too. freshwest May 2012 #8
Didn't remember that quote ewagner May 2012 #9
Yes, indeed, get rid of the Wanker and get back to work. But, I fear that the damage will last much freshwest May 2012 #12
You're exactly right Scuba Poiuyt May 2012 #5
Well put. postulater May 2012 #6
I 100% agree as well it's all about revenge Homer12 May 2012 #10
'cause they're idiots? n/t mzteris May 2012 #11
Yes, they were jealous, envious and hated those who came together/unionized! hue May 2012 #13
Divide and conquer snacker May 2012 #14
You people are so focused on walker you aren't thinking straight. tcaudilllg May 2012 #15

snacker

(3,619 posts)
1. Spot on!
Sun May 27, 2012, 03:12 PM
May 2012

I warned people long before the governor's election in 2010 when right wing hate radio continually talked about the "haves" (public employees) and "have nots". They successfully drove that point home, making public workers the enemy, and opening the door for Walker's evil plan.

 

tcaudilllg

(1,553 posts)
16. Walker needs to be made an example of.
Tue May 29, 2012, 02:15 AM
May 2012

He's a McCarthy type and he should be considered with every ounce of infamy due him.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Right on Scuba:
Sun May 27, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012



If Civics and Poly Sci were taught in schools,this crap would have difficult time occurring. It's propaganda and projectionisim at it's finest . Looking at a Walker popularity map,you can see how your point is playing out. The Northwest segment of the state is dominated by Fox and ABC out of the Twin Cities. One is a Hubbard station(GOP big wheel),not sure on the other than the Fox affiliate always pushes the hard right wing diatribe. Most of the folks in that region live day to day and are just hanging on,best paying jobs probably working in a Casino.

Going up in that area,know first hand about all the needle beak thoughts and false stories of State and County workers. Ninety nine plus percent of them made up just to wedge issue folks. Have had friends and relatives whom worked both state of local agency jobs,can tell story after story how there would write letters,out of jealousy,to the local rags denouncing ASME and the Teamsters because they were making a higher standard of living. Paid vacations,holidays off,forty hour weeks,overtime,sick leave,funeral leave and on and on,strictly Communistic I tell you. Got to remember,tail gunner Joe's greatest came from this area,lots of scared middle Europeans settled this area and brought along centuries of prejudgements. Population trends to most young people leaving and a few will stay milk cows and have a litter of kids all to receive some sort of assistance,yet bitch about to much govmant hand outs.

History repeating it's self every fifty years.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. I fear that is exactly why. And the hate is against those who never harmed them at all.
Sun May 27, 2012, 04:22 PM
May 2012
It's proof of the truth of this warning:

If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. ~Malcolm X

The media has made an industry of encouraging them to blame others, strangers for the most part, for their own personal problems. The way the words, Democrats, liberals, socialists, etc. have been distorted and the person who might consider topics for discussion or groups they may find themselves in agreement with, is out of proportion to the problems they may generate to the world of the Walker supporters.

They are hot and bothered about things that may have never happened, are not happening now or may never happen at all. But they feel this puts them into a group of victims or saints when they are neither. I fear many people have taken what they hear as the truth, letting those oft repeated, and very well paid for, lies rattle around in their brains without ever taking a cleansing breath to reflect on the fact that these are just thoughts, sounds, notions, pass fancies. And they want to hurt someone for that.

It's the zombie apocalypse of the American mind, with long-dead and discarded rhetoric resurrected to engender division. In the past, we used to say, just 'substitute the word Jew' for who is being attacked, and you will get to the source of the hate. Not because of the label, but because of the organizing of groups against each other for the benefit of the powerful.

Inundated with commercial and theatrical memes, we have been conditioned to take in all these concepts without ever taking time to question their validity. Even if a person goes to the wilderness or our domesticated natural venues to get grounded and reboot ourselves, if they are in that way of thinking, they can't live without their daily fix of electronically carried propaganda. They carry it with them, unwilling to let go of the high.

For example, it has been called heartening, that in a nation so emotionally manipulated as ours since the Cold War to accept a state of endless war and looking to fight enemies, real and imaginary, that we still have people who resist. That the great war machine on Planet Earth, the USA, still has millions who say 'No.'

We're in a battle for the consciousness for millions by the powerful who mean us no good.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
9. Didn't remember that quote
Mon May 28, 2012, 08:48 AM
May 2012

It's true....in central Wisconsin we see the same hate coming out of an AM station in Wausau (AM550)... with the paper mill in Brokaw shutting down (900+ jobs lost on a leveraged buyout) and SNE windows closed down, fear is great and it's easy to make "criminals" out of public employees who are "stealing YOUR money!" (sometimes they say OUR money)...

Teachers are hated for their salaries and benefits.

Public workers are "getting what they deserved" as their Union contracts expire and are replaced with "Personnel Policy and Procedures Manuals" that are draconian at best...items that have been bargained for and paid for with concessions over the years are simply gone.

I've never seen us so divided.

I've never seen so much division

I've got an idea....let's Get RID OF SNOTTY SCOTTY!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Yes, indeed, get rid of the Wanker and get back to work. But, I fear that the damage will last much
Mon May 28, 2012, 01:10 PM
May 2012

Longer with many of those people being shuffled off to jobs from the Koch brothers...

Would be useful to know if those jobs being lost are their companies, as they do own paper mills...

And they will continue to support privatization because of the saying 'You just gotta love your job, because you need the money!'

And the levered buy out... Do they know that is the Bain business model, and that if they vote for Romney or the GOP they did it to themselves?

There was a job statistic report posted her a while back about Walker's failure to bring jobs to Wisconsin... My state is much smaller and has had 41K jobs created under our Democratic Governor in the same time that Wisconsin lost jobs under their Republican governor.

If Walker survives this election, I believe the total dumbing down of the electorate worked. And there's no escaping the regimentation of humanity that will follow that.

Poiuyt

(18,110 posts)
5. You're exactly right Scuba
Sun May 27, 2012, 05:02 PM
May 2012

I've noticed that the latest targets of venom are the state's teachers, people who are trying to help their children. Being a teacher is a difficult and thankless job, and they are not evil (except my fourth grade teacher).

I guess it's not surprising considering that some people take it as a source of pride that they never went to college.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
6. Well put.
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:15 PM
May 2012

I've been trying to figure that out for months.

Now what would be the one question we could ask one of them to spin their head around?

Homer12

(1,866 posts)
10. I 100% agree as well it's all about revenge
Mon May 28, 2012, 08:55 AM
May 2012

Lest not forget that JS communications who owns the JS and 620 WGOP have been behind Walkers ascent the past 12 years. JS communications (union busters as well) corporate interests are served best with Walker in office.

As far as punishment I agree, right wingers care little about character. Walker feeds their base instincts of greed and offers scapegoats for their anger to be fed. Public workers and the dreaded moderates and liberals all enemies in the AM hate radio sphere.


WI Walker supporters are clueless that the shadow of Gobbles is being used by their beloved Fuhrer.

The mere fact that Walker colludes with corporations make him a fascist.

hue

(4,949 posts)
13. Yes, they were jealous, envious and hated those who came together/unionized!
Mon May 28, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

And Walker punished them! Nothing else matters!! For that he has their vote!!

You got it Scuba!!

snacker

(3,619 posts)
14. Divide and conquer
Mon May 28, 2012, 06:52 PM
May 2012

"In closing, let me note it is really sad to see a politician taking advantage of the jealousy between those that did not work hard in school, did not get an education, and thus have smaller opportunities; and those that worked hard to build their minds, and now work in professional, yet underpaid public service jobs. His campaign preys upon class jealousy, ignorance and racism in rural areas, kowtowing to the lowest denominator of decency in the populace."

from:
http://wcmcoop.com/members/scott-walker-at-marquette-university-a-personal-rememberance-by-dr-glen-barry/

 

tcaudilllg

(1,553 posts)
15. You people are so focused on walker you aren't thinking straight.
Tue May 29, 2012, 02:05 AM
May 2012

Walker is a final boss. He seems invincible until you disengage from him emotionally.

Democrats are in such disbelief at his mobilization of a majority that they are not obliterating his argument. Of course, the problem is that some Dems want to see union power curtailed... Walker's strength reflects corruption in our midst.

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