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Spazito

(50,169 posts)
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 04:52 PM Feb 2022

Trudeau warns of 'severe consequences' for anti-vaccine mandate protesters who don't stand down

In his most strongly worded statement since the anti-vaccine mandate protests began nearly two weeks ago, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Friday that police and all levels of government are preparing to take action against the demonstrators behind the blockades in Ottawa, Windsor and elsewhere.

Trudeau said the protesters must stand down or face severe "consequences" for any illegal activities — consequences that include the possibility of criminal charges and steep financial penalties. He said the federal government will no longer tolerate activists who "take the economy hostage" and bring life to a standstill in the nation's capital.

Trudeau said authorities are prepared to hit protesters where it hurts the most by suspending commercial trucking licenses and pursuing charges that could result in jail time. He also warned that criminal sanctions could be levelled that would stop the protesters from ever travelling internationally again.

"Everything is on the table because this unlawful activity has to end, and it will end," Trudeau said. "We hope these people will decide to go home. Otherwise, there will be an increasingly robust police intervention."

While the prime minister said he "can't say too much more about when or how this ends," he indicated that police are readying themselves now to break up demonstrations that have crippled Canada-U.S. trade and shuttered large portions of Ottawa's downtown core.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-severe-consequences-demonstrators-1.6348661

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Trudeau warns of 'severe consequences' for anti-vaccine mandate protesters who don't stand down (Original Post) Spazito Feb 2022 OP
Good. calimary Feb 2022 #1
Agree! Spazito Feb 2022 #2
The court did agree to the injunction to start at 7pm ET. They were meeting again at Bev54 Feb 2022 #13
Yes, it is good news indeed... Spazito Feb 2022 #15
I think it also helps going into court to be able to say they tried every Bev54 Feb 2022 #16
Exactly! Spazito Feb 2022 #18
Now I am waiting to see what Kenny is going to do in Alberta Bev54 Feb 2022 #17
It looks like it was about lifting the Covid restrictions.... Spazito Feb 2022 #19
He did talk about the blockade but that it is all up to the police to handle. Washed his hands of it Bev54 Feb 2022 #20
His poll numbers are in the toilet and for good reason.... Spazito Feb 2022 #21
Tell it Trudeau! appalachiablue Feb 2022 #3
Just do it! Leave or go to jail. No more coddling these people. LoisB Feb 2022 #4
Agreed! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #6
Shouldn't have issued warning imo SheltieLover Feb 2022 #5
It's part of the process so that if/when the court becomes involved... Spazito Feb 2022 #7
Yes I know. SheltieLover Feb 2022 #8
It can be very frustrating for sure... Spazito Feb 2022 #9
well that is good news. CANADIANBEAVER69 Feb 2022 #11
I'm so glad judge approved! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #22
The injunction goes into effect at 7 pm EST... Spazito Feb 2022 #23
Time zone? SheltieLover Feb 2022 #25
East coast time... Spazito Feb 2022 #26
So T-22 & counting SheltieLover Feb 2022 #27
Don't worry, I didn't take it as an insult... Spazito Feb 2022 #28
Glad you didn't take offense SheltieLover Feb 2022 #29
I hope the fines are hefty, their licenses suspended and... Spazito Feb 2022 #30
As for those pick-ups, authorities can always take plate #s & SheltieLover Feb 2022 #31
I use the CBC (Canada Broadcasting Corporation) for all of my OPs.... Spazito Feb 2022 #32
Ty! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #33
There are children embedded and they wanted to give them warning to Bev54 Feb 2022 #14
I'd read about kids blocking road SheltieLover Feb 2022 #24
Tank recovery vehicles gibraltar72 Feb 2022 #10
These truckers Busterscruggs Feb 2022 #12

calimary

(81,127 posts)
1. Good.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 04:59 PM
Feb 2022

This shit only happens because nothing decisive is done to stop it. This kind of crowd doesn’t respond to courtesy, or warnings without backup.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
2. Agree!
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 05:07 PM
Feb 2022

I am now waiting for the decision from the court regarding the injunction to end the blockade. If ordered, it gives the authorities even more legal backup to remove them by force if necessary as well levy heavy fines and suspending licenses and even jail time.

The court hearing is going on right now, am hoping we get the decision today.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
13. The court did agree to the injunction to start at 7pm ET. They were meeting again at
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:27 PM
Feb 2022

5:15 pm to work out some details with the court. There is on the table, $100,000 fines, 1 year in jail, loss of truckers license, loss of personal license, loss of ability to travel outside of the country again with criminal record.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
15. Yes, it is good news indeed...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:30 PM
Feb 2022

As frustrated as it was for some that it took the time it did, getting all the Ts crossed and the Is dotted before action is taken takes away any claims of not being informed, not receiving due process, etc, that the so-called 'protesters' might try and use in the courts.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
16. I think it also helps going into court to be able to say they tried every
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:33 PM
Feb 2022

diplomatic negotiations and they failed so we need the injunction.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
18. Exactly!
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:41 PM
Feb 2022

Trudeau said today that hundreds of officers from the Ontario Provincial Police and the RCMP are en route to the affected areas. There has been preparatory work done before today, no doubt, including keeping child protection services involved and informed.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
19. It looks like it was about lifting the Covid restrictions....
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:51 PM
Feb 2022

and not about the blockade. I tuned in after I read your post so I might have missed it. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't say anything concrete about it as it is his base doing the blockade. I despise the man.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
20. He did talk about the blockade but that it is all up to the police to handle. Washed his hands of it
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:16 PM
Feb 2022

Says he understands how they feel but it is illegal and they need to go home but doesn't sound like he is going to do anything else about it. What an absolute ass.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
21. His poll numbers are in the toilet and for good reason....
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:19 PM
Feb 2022

he has no backbone and kowtows to his base. I can only hope they keep dropping with an election in the offing next year.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. Shouldn't have issued warning imo
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 05:33 PM
Feb 2022

Actions speak much louder than words.

Just like with other children m8
Isbehaving, a warning negates some of the effect of their consequences.

They know what they are doing is wrong. Period.



Spazito

(50,169 posts)
7. It's part of the process so that if/when the court becomes involved...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

no one can say they weren't informed ahead of time of what would happen.

I am hoping the case currently before the court regarding an injunction against the blockade is concluded and a decision to order the injunction is done today, it would be a major backup to anything the authorities are going to do.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. Yes I know.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 05:45 PM
Feb 2022

But they damned well know they are breaking laws, causing people to miss work, & likely endangering lives.

Just like stopping at a stop sign. Societies have rules. They are, many of them, professional drivers!

I know, I know. I'm preaching to the choir...

Think of a toddler misbehaving badly. A swat on the rear or unexpectedly being placed in time out has a much stronger effect than repeatedly warning, then taking action.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
9. It can be very frustrating for sure...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 05:54 PM
Feb 2022

but it is better to cross all the Ts and dot all the Is so the so-called 'protesters' have no leg to stand on in court.

The court just approved the injunction, yippee!

CANADIANBEAVER69

(332 posts)
11. well that is good news.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
Feb 2022

I was worried about the protesters getting a better legal standing. It's going to get messy once they start trying to clear things out.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
22. I'm so glad judge approved!
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:24 PM
Feb 2022


I hope Canada has the spine to be swift, effective & vigorous in prosecuting!

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
23. The injunction goes into effect at 7 pm EST...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:27 PM
Feb 2022

the details are just starting to be reported now. My hope is this is wound down by the end of the weekend if not sooner.

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
26. East coast time...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:36 PM
Feb 2022

The Mayor of Winsor just said the following:

"I remain hopeful for a peaceful and negotiated resolution to the current blockade," the statement reads. "Local, regional and national law enforcement will collaborate and co-ordinate how best to respond to this legal ruling and seek to reopen the Ambassador Bridge. No operational details will be disclosed, to ensure the safety and security of all involved."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/ambassador-bridge-injunction-ruling-1.6348767

(The bolding is mine)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
27. So T-22 & counting
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:40 PM
Feb 2022

Btw, I didn't mean to insult Canada's justice system.

Are you near this madness? 😰

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
28. Don't worry, I didn't take it as an insult...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:45 PM
Feb 2022

I am, overall, very happy with our justice system, it works quite well but not perfectly by any means.

I'm not near the big blockade at the bridge but I live in the province, Alberta, that has it's own border blockade and our Con Premier is doing nothing, he is terrified of the 'protesters' because they are his base and they are all the support he has left.

Just a caution, I don't know if anything concrete will happen tonight, it may take a little time to get everyone coordinated but, hopefully, at the latest action will start tomorrow morning.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
29. Glad you didn't take offense
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:55 PM
Feb 2022

And glad you aren't near this big mess!

Oh ffs. Putin's been busy in Canada, too? Sorry to hear!

Saw another post stating tow truck companies & employees havde been getting threats!

My hope is everything is planned& equipment staged so they can quickly round them up & tow the trucks away. That will cost them a bundle!

Stay safe!

Spazito

(50,169 posts)
30. I hope the fines are hefty, their licenses suspended and...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 08:13 PM
Feb 2022

if they have used threats in any way, they face jail time. Almost all of the big rigs are owner-operated so their risk is very high both in direct costs and loss of contracts. It will be interesting to see how many stick around to face off against the authorities. My hope is not many.

At the bridge blockade as well as the blockades elsewhere there are a lot more pickups than big rigs which may not be widely known as the media tends to focus on whatever will get them ratings.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
31. As for those pick-ups, authorities can always take plate #s &
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

Follow up.

No clue, but I suspect there are some from the States. Imagine having to travel every couple of months internationally or, better yet, being incarcerated internationally.

My hopes are the same as yours.

No tv service here. If you find a link to live events, pls share?


Spazito

(50,169 posts)
32. I use the CBC (Canada Broadcasting Corporation) for all of my OPs....
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 08:25 PM
Feb 2022

they have good video clips of coverage as well. Here is the link:

https://www.cbc.ca/news

I hope you can access them and you are not blocked because you are in the US.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
14. There are children embedded and they wanted to give them warning to
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:29 PM
Feb 2022

get the children out of there.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
24. I'd read about kids blocking road
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 07:28 PM
Feb 2022

Didn't realize they are embedded!

Every single one of those parentsneeds to be charged with child endangerment.

"Big strong men" hiding behind preschoolers.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
12. These truckers
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
Feb 2022

Are filthy disgusting creatures that deserve everything coming to them. Back when I had it, they were always blowing their horns and running me off the road in my Subaru. I am convinced it was because of my coexist bumper stickers

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