HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Places » International » United Kingdom (Group) » Working-class Britons fee...

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:20 AM

Working-class Britons feel Brexity and betrayed

In DU Foreign Affairs...

8 replies, 1412 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 8 replies Author Time Post
Reply Working-class Britons feel Brexity and betrayed (Original post)
Ghost Dog Jun 2016 OP
Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #1
Bad Dog Jun 2016 #2
non sociopath skin Jun 2016 #3
Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #4
Nihil Jun 2016 #5
Myrddin Jun 2016 #7
LineLineLineNew Reply .
Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #8
T_i_B Jun 2016 #6

Response to Ghost Dog (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:07 AM

1. Fine comment at source:

... Maybe it's not a case of us leaving Europe but of us not being worthy enough anymore to be part of their club. No one here shares a European outlook of strength through unity. No one here thinks we are just as much the descendants of Plato, Charlemagne, Goethe and Voltaire as we are Boudicca and Brunel. We have bleated and whined and demanded a whole raft of exceptions while sending a cohort of racist harrumphers to institutions they don't believe should exist. We then lament that with such luminaries, things don't work well or that the adults take charge.

And now, we are all happy to let people call Turks as a menace. We let people rail against Poles and Romanians and no one bats an eyelid. The right clap along and the left tells us it's not bigotry it's just the expression of marginalization and a felling of abandonment. No one stands up and calls it out for the vicious prejudice it is. We all saw what happened tho Brown when he called Gillian Duffy a bigot just for making a bigoted comment.

The tragicomic thing of this situation is that, like all supporters of populist demagogues, the people who support them have the most to lose. If we leave they will wave the Union Jack, get pissed and sing football chants. They will celebrate trapping themselves on an island with a bunch of ruthless toffs who will start wholesale asset stripping and disenfranchising free of any constraint. And when they realise that leaving a free trade area does not miraculously make us the "great trading nation" we were when we controlled a quarter of the world by force of arms, then it will be too late.

As for the much derided middle class: Whether Hampstead socialist or Bury St-Edmunds reactionaries it won't be too bad for us. We will find loopholes. Some have second homes abroad that they can make permanent residence. Others have good friends from Erasmus years, gap years, internships or other middle class rites of passage that might be willing to accept a fake civil union so that all parties can get 2 passports.

We will be able to move abroad. Remainers will gloat and Brexiters will wail at what has become of Britain. We will all pretend to be surprised that a lethal mix of xenophobia and self inflicted economic seppuku creates a toxic political environment when only the charlatans survive. We will all say we don't understand what happened when these charlatans keep pushing that hatred button for more support. We will all feign dismay when the first episodes of violence happen...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:12 AM

2. Depressingly true.

The problem is immigrants are seen as either taking away British jobs or sponging off benefits. All the EU does in impose onerous red tape and suck up a load of money. And Britain in the 50s was so much better.

It's a load of bollocks but you need an education to see that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:17 PM

3. This is brilliant.

Did you write it, GD.

If so, can I re-use it if I acknowledge you?

The Skin

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to non sociopath skin (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:05 PM

4. Not me,

a Guardian commenter. Use it!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:20 AM

5. And yet too few people see this as even a possibility ...

 

> We will all pretend to be surprised that a lethal mix of xenophobia and self inflicted
> economic seppuku creates a toxic political environment when only the charlatans survive.

Good article - thanks for (cross-)posting it!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:42 AM

7. I think you have written...

...just what I was too pissed off/ plain pissed to write for myself!

Well done sir.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Myrddin (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:34 PM

8. .

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Ghost Dog (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:58 AM

6. It was worst in the old pit villages

People in those places have been let down badly before now and are looking for scapegoats. The EU fits the bill for that all too well.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread