The Mail has explained what Brexit means and its readers seem shocked

[Denzil_DC]

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'TAKE A BOW, BRITAIN', the front page of today's pro-Leave Daily Mail urges.

Inside, as well as hailing the referendum as 'the day the quiet people stood up and roared' and rubbishing the 'disaster' that was project fear, it also explores what Brexit means for its readers: the pound is worth less which means holidays cost more, Britons will lose the right to work, buy holiday homes, travel and study without restrictions in the EU and pensions have lost value. All in all, some things to worry its readers even if they share the paper's politics.

And in the comments online underneath the story, many of those readers seen dumbfounded, shocked and ever so slightly incredulous:







Full story: http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-mail-has-explained-what-brexit-means-and-its-readers-seem-shocked--Z1772TI4aNW

The Mail's original story from 24 June is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659137/So-does-mean-Brexit-affect-holiday-money-mortgages-passports-health-cover.html

For once, it is worth reading the comments ...

[mercuryblues]

1. The USA

and Britain are in a race for the bottom. Britain voted to leave the Union, but America is holding the Trump card. GOTV.

[shenmue]

2. Good grief

I has a sad.

[orwell]

3. Stupid democracy wins again!

God save the Queen!

[tblue37]

4. This one:

[tblue37]

5. And here is a cogent comment from one of the Independent's readers (emphasis added):

Average asking price for a three bed house in Lincoln on 20th June was £170K, already seeing asking prices dropping to as low as £130K today for similar for those desperate and fluid enough, to get a quick sale in case things drop further. Might seem great for first time buyers now, but with drops in share prices, then mortgage availability will tighten up, then people will find themselves in negative equity and tied into their properties for years until (if) things pick up, so expect a complete stagnation of the housing market folks. We've seen it all before (1991 and the last dip in 2012(?)). Developers lose confidence and shelve/dump plans for more housing, construction industry and related industries go down the pan (again) - already seen massive share drops for Taylor Woodrow etc https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=PSN.L#symbol=PSN.L;range=5d . Huge job losses in blue collar trades follow as contractor jobs dry up on the development sites. Some guys will try going self employed and try handyman enterprises to take on the jobs where householders are forced to stay put and make the best of what they have, but clients will probably want to hold onto what savings they have for a good while until things settle down. Many tradesmen never returned to the industry which led to shortages of plumbers, joiners, brickies and electricians, so Govt ploughed massive amounts into incentive schemes to encourage apprentices and we ended up welcoming a huge number of skilled workers from abroad to take up the slack (just like the british brickies and joiners who went to Germany in the 80s when they were short skilled). It took a good ten years for a healthy bounce back after '91. All predictable, of course, but labelled as scaremongering. Why folks believed the lies and propaganda defeats me.

[Scootaloo]

6. It seems a pox on both houses

The Leave camp lied through their teeth, and the Remain camp seems to have responded with high-pitched shrieking.

[Denzil_DC]

10. From what I've heard from within Cameron's staff after the vote,

they were using their experience of "winning" the Scottish referendum as a model for the Remain campaign.

During that referendum, they waged what major figures in the anti-independence campaign themselves called Project Fear: grave warning after grave warning about the consequences of leaving the UK, while the Yes campaign were expected (in stark contrast to the Leave campaign in the EU referendum) to have very concrete, very detailed answers to questions about every eventuality that couldn't possibly be resolved until the negotiations after the referendum had been run.

What they didn't allow for was that during the Scottish referendum, they had print and broadcast media which, with the exception of only one Scottish Sunday newspaper, were vehemently opposed to Scotland going it alone. That obviously wasn't an advantage they enjoyed this time.

One pundit up here, early on in the EU referendum, despairing of the tone, called the campaigns on both sides Project We're All Going To Die. There was hype on both sides, but it seems like Remain was a lot closer to promoting the truth at the moment.

[Dworkin]

7. Long term effects

Hi,

I've done some reading on this subject and it seems that the BOE head, Mark Carney, is preparing for a longer term downturn in the UK economy.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/30/interest-rate-cut-likely-brexit-bank-of-england-mark-carney

His emergency plan: 0% interest rates and printing money, is not without risks, but who knows what will happen? The Tories (Osborne and May) are talking of dropping efforts to balance the books and so our £1.7 trillion national debt will continue to rise. With a downgrade of Britain's credit rating from the three biggest agencies we should be prepared for higher interest payments on this massive debt, thus increasing the deficit and national debt even more.

It is hard to see an upside in this situation, apart from the fact that the Tories own it. However, this will come as little comfort to those 'precariat' folks who have suffered so much under them already.

D.

[greatauntoftriplets]

9. Maybe they should start reading something other than the Daily Mail.

smh.