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muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:46 AM Jul 2016

Angela Eagle to announce Labour party leadership bid on Monday

Angela Eagle is to announce a formal challenge against Jeremy Corbyn for the leadership of the Labour party on Monday, after the deputy leader, Tom Watson, announced that union-backed peace talks over a compromise had collapsed.

Watson claimed in a statement that Corbyn had torpedoed any hope of talks progressing by publicly declaring his intention to stay on as leader “come what may”.

In a statement released on Saturday morning, Watson said that with “regret and profound sadness” he had concluded that there was “little to be achieved” in continuing discussions between the unions, who are largely backing Corbyn, and key members of the parliamentary party, including chief whip Rosie Winterton and parliamentary party chair John Cryer.

It is understood that Watson has been privately asking the two key contenders for the leadership, Angela Eagle and Owen Smith, to hold back from launching their campaigns to allow further time for an agreement with Corbyn to be made.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/jeremy-corbyn-set-for-leadership-challenge-after-peace-talks-fail
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Angela Eagle to announce Labour party leadership bid on Monday (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 OP
Seems to be becoming a weekly event .... non sociopath skin Jul 2016 #1
I was SO resisting making a crack like that ... Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #2
Looks like we will be having a genuine product roll-out this week 'though RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #12
If TripAdvisor did politics..... T_i_B Jul 2016 #13
The plot thickens. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #3
The 'Blairisation' of the Labour party continues... truebrit71 Jul 2016 #4
The only "compromise" the anti-Corbynites would ever have accepted Ken Burch Jul 2016 #5
Prediction: Eagle supporters will argue that it is homophobic to want Corbyn to stay on as leader. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #6
Prediction: Eagle's opponents will make an issue of her sexuality T_i_B Jul 2016 #7
It will only by Tories making an issue of Eagle's sexual orientation. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #8
Don't be surprised if you do see it from some on the left T_i_B Jul 2016 #9
trolls are trolls. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #10
Nope, they will be from the left too RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #11
Tessa Jowell is a shameless liar. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #14
Hear, Hear! Ken Burch Jul 2016 #15
Thanks for posting that in full. Nihil Jul 2016 #17
Pink News has a follow-up, Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #18
It's not a MSM plot; their just not that into you RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #16
I did notice that Owen Smith postponed his campaign launch today T_i_B Jul 2016 #19
If nothing else, Smith will probably have someone check to make sure... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #20
Another follow-up to Eagle's claims of victimization Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #21
And the broken glass was outside on the ground, which likely wouldn't have been the case Ken Burch Jul 2016 #22

RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
12. Looks like we will be having a genuine product roll-out this week 'though
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jul 2016

Lots of 5 star and 1 Star reviews; probably not many in the middle.

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
3. The plot thickens.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jul 2016

Len McCluskey:



Unite boss says Tom Watson's move is 'act of sabotage'

The leader of Britain's biggest trade union has condemned a decision by Tom Watson to call off a meeting over the leadership crisis as an "act of sabotage."

Len McCluskey, general secretary of Unite, said that a plan to resolve bitter differences in the party had "never been closer", but Mr Watson cancelled the meeting which was due to take place on Sunday.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07-09/unite-boss-says-tom-watsons-move-is-act-of-sabotage/
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. The only "compromise" the anti-Corbynites would ever have accepted
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jul 2016

would have been Corbyn standing down, then being barred from entering the leadership contest, with no one at all from the left being allowed to enter the leadership contest, and the extreme right-wing pre-Corbyn status quo being restored.

This "compromise" would have made a Labour victory in 2020 both impossible and meaningless.

An Angela Eagle-led Labour Party would keep the bomb, continue attacking Syria(probably sending in ground troops at some point) back the benefits cap, back the Tory budget charter, and continue to keep internal democracy totally supressed. No one would think there was any meaningful difference between Labour and the Tories if that situation was created. Labour would go back to being a principle-free dead zone.

Labour Party membership would instantly plummet, and a party can't win an election when people are leaving it.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
7. Prediction: Eagle's opponents will make an issue of her sexuality
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jul 2016

Even it's just a few random nutters on Twitter behaving like that.

As we are discussing on another thread, we live in an age when people will make an issue over a female politician who doesn't have children so we cannot be too optimistic about these matters.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
8. It will only by Tories making an issue of Eagle's sexual orientation.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jul 2016

The left supports the LGBTQ struggle wholeheartedly. Labour only started fighting for LGBTQ rights in the Eighties because the Left was leading it. The right wing of the party still felt decriminalization was sufficient.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
9. Don't be surprised if you do see it from some on the left
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:38 AM
Jul 2016

Especially from online trolls in places like Farcebook and tw@tter.

And if it does happen, it will be highlighted, just as happens when people claiming to be leftier then thou resort to misogynist abuse of politicians like Liz Kendall.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. trolls are trolls.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 04:52 AM
Jul 2016

Most likely that would be Tory or UKIP supporters pretending to be leftists.

I do condemn anyone who would make an issue of it.

RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
11. Nope, they will be from the left too
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:33 AM
Jul 2016

I have come across a fair amount of mysogyny and homophobia amongst the left in my time.

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
14. Tessa Jowell is a shameless liar.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jul 2016
Angela Eagle subjected to ‘homophobic abuse’ from Jeremy Corbyn supporters

Angela Eagle has been subjected to “homophobic abuse” since resigning from the Shadow cabinet and revealing her plans to challenge current leader Jeremy Corbyn, according to a senior Labour politician.

Speaking on Daily Politics earlier today, Baroness Tessa Jowell said members of Labour’s Parliamentary Party had been subjected to “intimidation, abuse and fear” in the wake of a vote of no confidence in Mr Corbyn last week.

... Baroness Jowell claimed that Ms Eagle had suffered anti-gay abuse from members of the left-wing, pro-Corbyn group Momentum at the meeting in Wallasey – who she says do not represent the majority of Labour party supporters.

“I spoke to Angela about her meeting,” she said. “She faced homophobic abuse at that meeting.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/07/05/angela-eagle-subjected-to-homophobic-abuse-from-jeremy-corbyn-supporters/


The chair of that meeting tweeted:

Kathy Runswick
?@Kathunion

Kathy Runswick Retweeted PinkNews

This is not true I chaired the meeting


Followed by issuing this statement on Facebook:



Tessa Jowell is a shameful liar.
 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
17. Thanks for posting that in full.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jul 2016

Bare-faced lies from Jowell.

Silence in the face of the truth from the other Anti-Corbynites.

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
18. Pink News has a follow-up,
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jul 2016

in case anybody's not willing to trust a screencap from Facebook:

Angela Eagle homophobia claims ‘completely untrue’

... several of those who attended the meeting have refuted the accusation – claiming that Ms Eagle was not even at the meeting in question.

Kathy Runswick – Chair of the Wallasey Constituency – told PinkNews that the allegation was “completely untrue”.

“Angela Eagle was not at the Wallasey Labour Party AGM and thus could not have ‘faced homophobic abuse’,” she added.

“There is zero tolerance of homophobia in Wallasey Labour Party, and the Constituency Labour Party will now fully investigate these new allegations.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/07/14/labour-party-denies-angela-eagle-homophobia-claim/


Jowell hasn't responded to repeated media requests for comment about her claims.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
19. I did notice that Owen Smith postponed his campaign launch today
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jul 2016

Hopefully that means that he's learned from Angela Eagles troubles.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
20. If nothing else, Smith will probably have someone check to make sure...
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jul 2016

...that the reporters credentialed to cover his launch will still be there when he starts calling on them to ask questions...

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
21. Another follow-up to Eagle's claims of victimization
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jul 2016
#Brickgate – Angela Eagle’s Office Window was NOT broken…



...

The YouTube video above very clearly explains how Angela Eagle’s office windows were not targeted. They were left untouched. But it appears that somebody connected to Ms Eagle or possibly Ms Eagle herself, when briefing the press pack, has allowed their dishonesty or their desire to misrepresent what happened to get the better of them.

https://wirralinittogether.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/brickgate-angela-eagles-office-window-was-not-broken/


Eagle's office shares a building with other organizations. The window broken was in a common stairwell.

Here's Eagle's office window, still intact:



Here's the stairwell window that was broken:



 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. And the broken glass was outside on the ground, which likely wouldn't have been the case
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jul 2016

unless the window was broken from INSIDE.

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