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Wed May 3, 2017, 04:58 AM

The Brexit spirit

Hi,

We are in an English seaside town. We go into a posh hotel and ask for Martinis in the bar. The Brit barman says “What’s a Martini?” before going off to find out what we are talking about and how to make them. We leave.

Later we go into a seafront cafe and I ask for a black Americano with milk on the side. The Brit waitress gives me a white Americano with extra milk on the side. This drink contains precious little coffee but much milk.

In desperation, we go to a coffee chain, Costa. I ask for the same and the Brit ‘Barrister’ shouts ‘White Americano’ to his colleague. It tastes like sludge.

I have been abroad in Europe. I know that this would not happen in any other EU country, or even here if the employee was an immigrant from anywhere. But in Brexit Britain it is a short step back to the 1950s, a time of poor food, worldly ignorance and terminally bad service. What’s not to like?

D.

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Reply The Brexit spirit (Original post)
Dworkin May 2017 OP
Ghost Dog May 2017 #1
no_hypocrisy May 2017 #2
FBaggins May 2017 #3
whathehell May 2017 #5
T_i_B May 2017 #7
whathehell May 2017 #8
FBaggins May 2017 #9
whathehell May 2017 #10
FBaggins May 2017 #11
whathehell May 2017 #12
FBaggins May 2017 #14
whathehell May 2017 #15
T_i_B May 2017 #4
whathehell May 2017 #6
whathehell May 2017 #13
Denzil_DC May 2017 #16
Dworkin May 2017 #17

Response to Dworkin (Original post)

Wed May 3, 2017, 06:17 AM

1. Wait a bit and they'll bring back rationing.

Very early '50s.

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Response to Dworkin (Original post)

Wed May 3, 2017, 06:19 AM

2. As an aside with reference to your initial order for a martini,

when I was in Scotland at a pub and asked for a martini, they served me gin and 7-Up. If you want the vermouth variety, you need to ask for a dry martini.

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Response to Dworkin (Original post)

Wed May 3, 2017, 07:01 AM

3. How does that have anything to do with brexit?

Do you think that they all knew how to make what you wanted a year ago and then forgot?

This appears to fall more into the "silly American tourist" bucket. If you order a martini in France - you get sweet vermouth (often with a choice of colors) with lemon over ice. No gin or vodka.

Why not just order a Big Mac and fries?

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #3)

Thu May 4, 2017, 04:07 AM

5. How does it have anything to do with brexit?

I'll tell you how -- A "screw the foreigner" or "silly American tourist" attitude coupled with provincialism, and lousy customer service.


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Response to whathehell (Reply #5)

Thu May 4, 2017, 07:35 AM

7. Whatever else the national cancer is responsible for....

Naff customer service and provincial attitudes weren't invented during the EU referendum.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #7)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:19 AM

8. Maybe not, but I doubt it's helped..

Just a thought.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #5)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:54 AM

9. Your OP implies that you have traveled in Europe

This more recent reply implies that you have not (or at least not extensively)... for there is nothing unusual in your story.

Except, perhaps, for the irony of an American traveling to someone else's country, expecting them to cater to what he expects beverages to be (with anything less being poor service)... and then calling them "provincial" - all while coming from a country that thinks that there is such a thing as a 20 oz cappuccino (served all day long).

I recommend more travel... and ordering whatever the local closest to you has ordered.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #9)

Thu May 4, 2017, 10:42 AM

10. Lol...Nice try

but your own silly stereotyping shows in your attempt to characterize a country of 320 million via a glib, but brainless characterization of coffee orders, lol.

First of all, " implications" are quite.subjective, as is one's definition of "extensive", but even before that, considering your presumptuous "suggestion" about my need for "more.travel", I'd have to ask how extensive your travels might be, and if any have taken in any of our fifty states...European stereotypes of "insular" Americans always amuse me since in fact, more Americans have visited Europe than the other way around.

All this is pertinent, baggis, because you see, I''ve not only traveled in Europe, I've lived in one European country and " visited", some frequently,
seven others.

Somehow I'm betting that not only stacks up nicely against your travels, but surpasses what your view of Americans would have allowed. Cheers.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #10)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:44 PM

11. You're missing that "more travel" was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

First of all, " implications" are.quite.subjective

Not in this case. Your self-described behavior is bad enough. You walk out of a bar because the bartender doesn't know what you mean by a martini? When he's willing to ask you and escalate to someone else to help you? Yeah... I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you actually travel extensively and still act that way... I now recommend less travel - since you're just making the rest of us look bad. I should have assumed this based on the fact that you decided to open a forum post to complain about the service in the first place.

I'd have to ask how extensive your travels might be

Significantly beyond what you describe for yourself - both domestically and abroad (military family growing up and a little service myself... extensive business travel... and frequent holidays to Europe to visit extended family). When I travel, I order their food, not try to get them to make what I can get here (with the notable exception of some excellent Chinese restaurants in London and the Swedish meatballs that I just had to order when Ikea opened a new location outside of Pisa a few years ago). If it isn't what I expected... then I assume that it's my fault - not theirs - and try to expand my palate.

always amuse me when, the.fact, is, more Americans have visited Europe than the other way around.

Interesting that it amuses you... since it isn't true. Travel by Europeans to the US is moderately higher (about 20% last year) than the other way around.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #11)

Thu May 4, 2017, 01:00 PM

12. You're missing the correct poster, lol!

Get ahold of yourself, dear, I never DESCRIBED my behavior --
- The drink ordering poster was someone else!

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Response to whathehell (Reply #12)

Thu May 4, 2017, 02:18 PM

14. My apologies! You're absolutely correct.

Why on Earth did you decide to answer for the original poster on what (s)he meant by how it's connected to Brexit?

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #14)

Fri May 5, 2017, 11:18 AM

15. Bez briga

That's Croatian for 'no worries'.

In answer to your question, I got into the discussion for two reasons:. 1. I thought the poster had a point, tenuous though it
was. 2. I. get tired of the knee jerk "silly Americans" meme..

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Response to Dworkin (Original post)

Wed May 3, 2017, 07:34 AM

4. Did you ask for Waldorf Salad as well?

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #4)

Thu May 4, 2017, 04:13 AM

6. Riiiiight..

Do you imagine Europeans in America don't make similar requests?.....I've served Brits as a waitress in bars and restaurants -- Don't get me started.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #4)

Thu May 4, 2017, 01:19 PM

13. No, but I've had Brits ask me for "pasties'

and I'm like "why would a restaurant carry stripper-wear"?

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #4)

Fri May 5, 2017, 11:33 AM

16. "Well, I think we're just out of Waldorfs."

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Response to Dworkin (Original post)

Fri May 5, 2017, 05:21 PM

17. Is the OP poster American?

Hi,

No, I'm a Brit.

My wife is Welsh, which still counts as a Brit, at least for now.

D.

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