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Watching the EU Elections results live (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2019 OP
On the plus side... T_i_B May 2019 #1
Death wish. cilla4progress May 2019 #2
On the bright side, the Lib Dem+Green+Change UK vote is almost as much as Brexit+UKIP muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #3
Exactly so. But UK MSM spins otherwise. Ghost Dog May 2019 #6
South East, vote share: Celerity May 2019 #4
We still have our 4 Faragists... LeftishBrit May 2019 #10
I don't think the UK is that fucked. Yet. mwooldri May 2019 #5
Exactly so. Ghost Dog May 2019 #7
I disagree with you love Soph0571 May 2019 #8
I now have 2 MEPs called Alexandra Phillips, and only one Tory muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #9
My region too - I noted the same thing! LeftishBrit May 2019 #12
How to vote: write "not wank" by your chosen party muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #11

T_i_B

(14,736 posts)
1. On the plus side...
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:58 PM
May 2019

...we now have two very good pro-Remain MEP's from Sheffield representing Yorkshire.

Basically the OAP block vote has gone en mass to Farage's Brexit pity party. Labour and Conservatives have both done very badly.

It's been quite a weird election in that you had Lib Dem's, Greens and Change UK/ TIG all concentrating exclusively on remainers, the far right concentrating exclusively on Leave supporters, Labour trying to please both sides (and failing badly) and the Tories waving a white flag at Nigel Farage. Britain is badly divided and nobody is even trying to unite the nation.

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
2. Death wish.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:05 PM
May 2019

I'm convinced a certain segment of the population is lazy enough they'd rather give up than fight all the challenges in front of us!

And by give up, I mean become craven, self-serving, racist, misogynist, xenophobic, flat-earther haters! It's just easier to blame other people.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
3. On the bright side, the Lib Dem+Green+Change UK vote is almost as much as Brexit+UKIP
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:29 PM
May 2019

and when the Scottish results come in (SNP doing very well), the "definitely Remain" parties may outweigh the "definitely Leave". What we don't know, of course, is the feelings of those who stuck with Tory and Labour - clearly they both lost a lot of votes in both directions. This vote had been a sort of national opinion poll, but with Tory/Labour votes maddeningly unclear.

However, unless we somehow get a new referendum, that won't affect things. We need Tory rebels to join with MPs to force that (or a general election), or we default into No Deal.

Celerity

(43,117 posts)
4. South East, vote share:
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019

Brex: 36.1% (+36.1)
LDem: 25.7% (+17.7)
Grn: 13.5% (+4.4)
Con: 10.3% (-20.6)
Lab: 7.3% (-7.4)
ChUK: 4.2% (+4.2)
UKIP: 2.2% (-29.9)




Hard Leave coalition is at 38.3% plus the Tories have 10.3 for a total of 48.6%

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
10. We still have our 4 Faragists...
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:48 PM
May 2019

now Brexit rather than UKIP but it's basically the same thing with a new name.

However, we now have 3 LibDems and 1 Tory, instead of the other way round. And 1 Green and 1 Labour, as before.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
5. I don't think the UK is that fucked. Yet.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019

The numbers I'm seeing indicate that more people voted for pro-Remain parties (LD, Green, SNP, PC Change etc) than voted for pro-Leave (Brexit, UKIP).

The two main parties have no idea what to do regarding Brexit. Labour have no clear stance. The Conservatives want to leave but are divided on how much leave there should be (hard Brexit, Brexit in name only, etc).

I'm hoping that there will be a new referendum and there will be a clear "Bollocks to Brexit" message given.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
8. I disagree with you love
Mon May 27, 2019, 03:46 AM
May 2019

Whoever is going to be the new PM will use the results to say - see people clearly voted for Brexit Party over the Tories because their message is clear - the people clearly want a no deal Brexit and the EU elections result will be sold as the 'people's vote'. They will ignore the fact that if you add up all of the clear remain parties they are in the lead. We are about t be lead by a hard Brexiteer (unless a miracle happens) and they will use this result to take us further to the the right wing dystopian rabbit hole.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
9. I now have 2 MEPs called Alexandra Phillips, and only one Tory
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:15 AM
May 2019



The Tories getting their worst election result in 200 years, and being outnumbered by a name, must be something good.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
11. How to vote: write "not wank" by your chosen party
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:00 PM
May 2019

as long as you make your intentions clear:

Chris Williams, an agent for the Green party in Leicester, has told the Guardian that he has seen scores of spoilt ballots, apparently forged by pro-Brexit voters.

Slogans such as ‘Brexit now’, ‘We need brexit’ and ‘We’ve already voted on this’ were scrawled next to Brexit, he said, but the electors neglected to vote for either Ukip or the Brexit party.

Williams had been checking the disputed ballots as part of his duties as an election agent, and also found one ballot which had ‘wank’ written in every single box apart from that of the Green party. The voter left a note saying ‘not wank’ for the environmentalist party which was deemed acceptable as a vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/may/26/european-elections-2019-results-eu-election-parliament-brexit-party-farage-tories-may-live?page=with:block-5ceb01e88f08ad67f1a818fd#block-5ceb01e88f08ad67f1a818fd
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