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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 08:03 AM Jul 2019

No-deal Brexit was once a sick Tory joke. Now it's serious

No-deal Brexit has suddenly gone serious. It is no longer an exercise in bombast and biceps-flexing. Boris Johnson is about to impose a massive economic sanction on his own country. He is playing with fire: it is a political stunt that has gone horribly wrong.

It is clearly reckless to assume a sensible Brexit deal before the due date of 31 October. Politicians can twiddle their thumbs, others cannot. Since March, the Tories decided collectively to stop working in the nation’s interest and play a game of chicken with Brussels. It has not worked. The government is now planning for crisis.

The outlook is grim. The Institute for Government warns that there is no magic button, no “managed no deal”, to handle border chaos on 1 November. Emergency measures on trucks, plane flights, tourism and immigration will be entirely at the EU’s mercy – as the UK will, overnight, become legally a “foreign state”. We will need to be very nice to Brussels. Even current measures on financial services and aviation are strictly temporary. Rudimentary “technology checks” on truck movements will require a huge infrastructure of certificates, gantries and cameras, inspection depots and tariff collection points. None of this is remotely in place. Sixteen thousand officials will need to be set to work on it, and by October. This is impossible.


[link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/29/no-deal-brexit-tory-joke-boris-johnson-economic-britain#tabs-popular-2|

I have a really horrible feeling about this...
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No-deal Brexit was once a sick Tory joke. Now it's serious (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2019 OP
One reason why the EU won't grant concessions to the UK's Brexit: no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #1
Brussels is not going to blink Celerity Jul 2019 #2
I once spent a year in Stockholm. Soph0571 Jul 2019 #3
it is much more like London now than it was say 30 years ago Celerity Jul 2019 #4

no_hypocrisy

(46,086 posts)
1. One reason why the EU won't grant concessions to the UK's Brexit:
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 08:16 AM
Jul 2019

It sets a bad precedent.

IOW, say if France or Italy wanted to follow Britain by leaving the EU, there would be expectations of gifts for leaving. You know, swag.

It would only encourage more countries to leave.

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
2. Brussels is not going to blink
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 09:02 AM
Jul 2019

The attitude I now see here in Stockholm this summer has went from sympathetic to 'don't like the door hit you in the arse'.

My oldest Swedish friends call me the jinx (as look at my nations leaders now, Rump and Boris ) They worry that if we move here perm that Jimmie Åkesson (the far right wing SD leader) will become PM, lolol

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
4. it is much more like London now than it was say 30 years ago
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 09:12 AM
Jul 2019

Cost of living has exploded (still nowhere near Zone 1 levels though) and it now is far far more diverse ethnically (albeit it is also extremely segregated, especially in the inner core.)

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