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Aristus

(66,294 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:10 PM Dec 2019

Question from a friend across the Pond:

How likely is it that Scotland will withdraw from the UK if Johnson's Brexit goes through?

Personally, I'd like to see them do it, if only to point out to Downing Street that bad decisions have consequences.

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Question from a friend across the Pond: (Original Post) Aristus Dec 2019 OP
Opened Pandora's Box. N. Ireland next after Scotland to go... hlthe2b Dec 2019 #1
I love to see Ireland united. Aristus Dec 2019 #3
When we lived in Ireland 20 years ago KatyMan Dec 2019 #9
My 1st Cousin's wife is from there CanonRay Dec 2019 #2
2021 will be the deciding factor I think Soph0571 Dec 2019 #4
I thought the proper spelling was "shite". ret5hd Dec 2019 #5
LOL. Complete and utter shite!!!! n/t Soph0571 Dec 2019 #8
Too complicated to guess... TreasonousBastard Dec 2019 #6
Possessing Celtic ancestry myself, I'd be perfectly happy to see Scotland and Ireland Aristus Dec 2019 #7

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
1. Opened Pandora's Box. N. Ireland next after Scotland to go...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:16 PM
Dec 2019

Personally, I favor a united Ireland and an independent Scotland--both remaining as part of the EU. UK, your Russian enabled RW politicos are to blame. Sad for the 'sane' remaining. My sympathies.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
3. I love to see Ireland united.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:21 PM
Dec 2019

Would such an event cause a return of the Troubles? Or would the uneasy coexistence the Catholics and Protestants have now be preserved?

KatyMan

(4,185 posts)
9. When we lived in Ireland 20 years ago
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:31 PM
Dec 2019

Many people we talked to about unification didn't want it. One guy I knew said "why would we want them fuckers in our government?" . Not to mention people in the Nort (as they pronounce it) would lose a lot in terms of healthcare and other services. Granted, my experience is old and things may have changed.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
4. 2021 will be the deciding factor I think
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:28 PM
Dec 2019

Boris is refusing them an IndyRef2 but if the SNP sweep the boards in the Scottish election in 2021 the mandate will be overwhelming and at that point it is difficult to see that they will not be granted the referendum. However, this does not mean that Scotland would vote to go independent. Polls just before the General Election was 45% to leave. Of course this is before the impact of Brexit is felt at all, so if it is as shit as everyone expects, that % would go up significantly I think.

ret5hd

(20,483 posts)
5. I thought the proper spelling was "shite".
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:35 PM
Dec 2019

I'd hate to come across as crass and uneducated if I ever visit!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. Too complicated to guess...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/scottish-independence-and-brexit/595234/

After all, who'da thunk Brexit at all a little while ago.

It would be a strange historical thing if it's Brexit and and Scots leaving Great Britain a little less great are the keys to uniting Ireland.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
7. Possessing Celtic ancestry myself, I'd be perfectly happy to see Scotland and Ireland
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Dec 2019

kick the Anglo-Saxons in the teeth...

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