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Sun Oct 25, 2020, 04:15 PM

 

A Joe Biden White House will have little time and less love for 'Britain's Trump'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/25/johnson-dangerously-close-to-one-us-president-wht-if-biden-wins


If he becomes the next US president, who will be Mr Biden’s ‘special friend’ in Europe? Certainly not Boris Johnson

Andrew Rawnsley

Sun 25 Oct 2020 04.14 EDT
Last modified on Sun 25 Oct 2020 07.48 EDT

When the long race for the White House ends, another begins: the sprint to be the first European leader to be granted an audience by the new US president. In 2016, Theresa May was distraught to have got a wooden spoon in the competition to put in an early congratulatory telephone call to Trump Tower. That made her even more neuralgic about beating a path to Washington ahead of her European rivals. Mrs May had to throw in the promise of a Trump state visit to the UK – I rather rudely called it “pimping out the Queen” – to ensure that she got to the White House first.

This desperation can make British prime ministers look pathetically needy, but there is a reason why they set so much store by displays of proximity with the Oval Office. How important a prime minister is to the United States, the planet’s largest economy and most potent military force, sends a message about how much influence the UK wields in the world. So it is telling that Number 10 is resigned to the prospect that Boris Johnson will not be the first name on Joe Biden’s call sheet if he becomes the 46th president. Nor is there any expectation that Mr Johnson will be first in line when they hand out invitations to the White House. He has already quit a race UK prime ministers are usually pretty good at winning.

“There is an intrinsic problem for Boris,” observes Sir Christopher Meyer, the UK’s ambassador in Washington during the presidencies of Bill Clinton and George W Bush. “The Democrats think Boris is a pea from the same pod as Trump.” Being “Britain’s Trump” goes down almost as poisonously as being Trump himself among many in Team Biden. They are bracketed together in the minds of Democrats not just because both are rule-breaking populists who have polarised their countries and trashed historic alliances. Likely members of a Biden administration remember examples of the Tory leader’s insultingly Trumpian behaviour. Ben Rhodes, who was deputy national security adviser when Mr Biden was vice-president to Barack Obama, has remarked: “I’m old enough to remember when Boris Johnson said Obama opposed Brexit because he was Kenyan.” A more recent inflammatory episode exposed a complete absence of thought in Number 10 about the man whom the polls suggest will be the next US president.

One of the most essential things to know about Mr Biden – it would be on the first page if anyone wrote a book called Biden for Beginners – is that he is a Catholic who is extremely proud of his Irish ancestry. Mr Johnson was either blithe or ignorant about that when he declared that he was ready to break international law by dishonouring clauses concerning Ireland in the withdrawal agreement with the EU. Mr Biden was one of the voices in the chorus of American condemnation that the Johnson government was jeopardising the Good Friday agreement. “That was profoundly clumsy and stupid,” says Sir Chris. “It immediately ignited the Irish-American lobby in Washington, which is second in power only to the pro-Israeli lobby.”...



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"Ben Rhodes, who was deputy national security adviser when Mr Biden was vice-president to Barack Obama, has remarked: “I’m old enough to remember when Boris Johnson said Obama opposed Brexit because he was Kenyan.”





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Reply A Joe Biden White House will have little time and less love for 'Britain's Trump' (Original post)
friendly_iconoclast Oct 2020 OP
SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
OnDoutside Oct 2020 #3
SheltieLover Oct 2020 #8
OnDoutside Oct 2020 #2
Soph0571 Oct 2020 #4
OnDoutside Oct 2020 #5
Soph0571 Oct 2020 #6
OnDoutside Oct 2020 #7
Soph0571 Oct 2020 #9
OnDoutside Oct 2020 #10

Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 04:24 PM

1. BJ is tRump light

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 04:59 PM

3. They're both lazy asses.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:39 PM

8. Putin puppets out to destroy NATO!

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 04:59 PM

2. If Joe wants to fuck with Johnson, he should receive a call of congratulations

First from Irish Taoiseach Micheal Martin, and then from Angela Merkel, followed by Macron.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:14 PM

4. Joe will speak to the Taoiseach before the PM

You know the ones that give a fuck about peace and no borders on the Island of Ireland. They both know that the current number 10 could not give a flying fart about the GFA when it comes to Empire Brexit.

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:15 PM

5. It would certainly set down a marker.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:22 PM

6. I tell you this

The final final deadline for talks resolution is 11/11. If joe wins then I am going to guess the tenor of the talks changes considerably. Biden has said a border at home would mean no trade deal with the US. There is no way they can do the no deal Brexit walk if Biden gets in. No deal = no deal. Heh.

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:39 PM

7. And Nancy told them too. Not that Trump would be that much

better for them, as he would completely screw them over. Either way, they're in a terrible situation.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:41 PM

9. Yep and isn't it grand? n/t

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 25, 2020, 05:52 PM

10. Sure is, but it should never have come to this. It's a hard lesson.

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