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A few of Tuesday's newspaper front pages (Original Post) Emrys Jun 2022 OP
Fascinating, thanks for this! NT enough Jun 2022 #1
"Wounded Johnson..." SledDriver Jun 2022 #2
Fabulous compilation flamingdem Jun 2022 #3
Too bad he wasn't ousted today. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #4
the U.K.'S DONNY TRUMP ! towerbum Jun 2022 #5
The pro-Johnson camp... T_i_B Jun 2022 #6
Telegraph's "Hollow victory tears Tories apart" could be the most significant muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #7
Yeah, it's a tricky balance Emrys Jun 2022 #8
There's the Public Order Bill, trying to limit the right to protest muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #9
That would definitely be one bill it would be great to see fall, though I won't hold my breath, Emrys Jun 2022 #10

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
6. The pro-Johnson camp...
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:20 AM
Jun 2022

...is becoming increasingly heavily reliant on personality cult politics. And has also developed a tendency to try and blame any sort of adversity on a "rejoiner conspiracy".

The personality cult bit is increasingly ineffectual outside of the die hard tribal Tories, and the tendency to blame perceived outside conspiracies for their own mishaps is frankly ridiculous.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
7. Telegraph's "Hollow victory tears Tories apart" could be the most significant
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:16 AM
Jun 2022

He wrote for them, relatively recently, but they're no longer willing to push the personality cult for him - their typical reader will be the most unimpressed on the right with drunken parties and lying to parliament. That will most likely lose the Devon by-election for the Tories.

It will take something extraordinary to get Johnson to resign, though - everything he does is about his career, not what's best for the party (or the country, though one could argue that Johnson as PM makes it more likely Labour will win the next GE).

Emrys

(7,233 posts)
8. Yeah, it's a tricky balance
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

between "Hell mend them, let them be saddled with him and let the Tory brand continue to go down the tubes" and the harm that'll continue to be done to the country and us all - not that a mere change of leader would reverse that.

As has been observed, the votes of confidence in him in the 1922 Committee were mostly the Tory "payroll" vote (not necessarily those in paid posts, but with a job title and status because of him), and he's all but lost his backbenchers except for the usual loons.

I can't recall if there's any significant legislation to come before parliament goes on its summer hols. It would be interesting to see how far the dissent translates into votes in the House (I suspect not so much).

I wouldn't see any harm in the Opposition staging a vote of no confidence of the whole House some time soon. It would at least test the disgruntlement and degree of principle and fear for their seats among the Tory backbenchers, nothing would be lost by doing so, and I think it would largely reflect the degree of annoyance among the electorate.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
9. There's the Public Order Bill, trying to limit the right to protest
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

and beloved of Pritti Patel. One or two Tory rebels have mentioned it as a bad move by Johnson's government. It seems to be in Commons committee stage now: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3153

https://justice.org.uk/public-order-bill/

Emrys

(7,233 posts)
10. That would definitely be one bill it would be great to see fall, though I won't hold my breath,
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jun 2022

but there's also the Commons Privileges Committee investigation into Johnson:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/privileges-committee-investigation

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/privileges-committee-boris-johnson

No idea when it's going to report (it won't report at all if Johnson dissolves parliament and goes for a possibly unfeasibly early general election), but if that finds against him and he doesn't resign, then that would be a neat trigger for a Commons no-confidence vote if it hasn't happened earlier.

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