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Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:47 PM Mar 2016

The Tories systematically cheat in elections, says their own campaign manager

In an extraordinary investigation for Channel 4, Michael Crick has uncovered repeated electoral fraud by the Conservative party in the run-up to the 2015 general election. While the rest of the broadcast media largely ignores the story, the party’s own workers are speaking out, calling for an investigation into the Tories’ “systematic” breach of election rules.

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It was 2014, the year before the general election. David Cameron was fighting off “the Ukip threat”. He had already pledged to hold an EU referendum to keep eurosceptic voters happy. Then one of his MPs resigned, triggering a by-election in Newark – which Ukip thought it could win. Within months, two more by-elections were triggered when the Conservative MPs for Clacton and Rochester & Strood, Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless, both defected to Ukip.

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Channel 4 has uncovered hard evidence that the Conservatives spent more than the legal £100,000 limit in each of the three by-elections. Not just by a few pounds, or by a few thousand pounds, but by well over £90,000 across the three elections.

Then, instead of declaring their overspend, the party submitted misleading expense returns to returning officers – a criminal offence. It kept well over 1,200 nights of local hotel accommodation off the books. Many of those nights were signed for in a personal capacity by Conservative HQ Campaign Specialist Marion Little, who was later awarded an OBE for her by-elections work.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/02/29/tories-systematically-cheat-elections-says-campaign-manager/
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The Tories systematically cheat in elections, says their own campaign manager (Original Post) Denzil_DC Mar 2016 OP
Works here too underpants Mar 2016 #1
More: Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #2
I saw the C4 claims. Bad Dog Mar 2016 #3
According to the Channel 4 site, the Electoral Commission is investigating muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #4
That's good news I suppose(ish.) Bad Dog Mar 2016 #5
I have no doubt that they do... LeftishBrit Mar 2016 #6
I rather take it for granted Matilda Mar 2016 #7
Not worth a thread of its own, but a development on the above: Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #8
I saw that one. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #9
Channel 4 News seem to be going all-in on this, Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #10
They're a tenacious bunch. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #11
I don't watch many TV news programmes regularly nowadays, Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #12
I tend to drift in and out of the BBC Bad Dog Apr 2016 #13
This is still grinding on. Denzil_DC Apr 2016 #14
As folks may be aware, there have been more developments in all this. Denzil_DC May 2016 #15

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
2. More:
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016
Busted: The 24 Tories and how they 'broke General Election spending rules'

A Mirror investigation today reveals how 24 Tory MPs failed to declare thousands of pounds spent on their election campaigns in marginal seats.

None of the MPs we name below declared the party's controversial RoadTrip battlebuses in local budgets, with Tory HQ picking up the tab instead.

If the estimated £2,000 cost of the bus had been included locally, some of the MPs could have breached strict spending limits.

Five Tory RoadTrip battlebuses crossed the country to help handpicked candidates in the final stages of last year’s election campaign, with head office picking up the tab.

The total cost of this campaign has never been published, but the Mirror has found invoices indicating it was more than £2,000 a day, including pay and expenses for volunteers and promotion costs.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/busted-24-tories-how-broke-7467603#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
3. I saw the C4 claims.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

I also heard the police wouldn't investigate because it was too long ago. So that's why the Tories have been cutting the police budget.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
4. According to the Channel 4 site, the Electoral Commission is investigating
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016
Election watchdog extends scope of investigation

The Electoral Commission last month launched an inquiry into Tory general election spending in the Kent seat of Thanet South in 2015, following allegations broadcast by Channel 4 News.

The investigation has now been broadened to cover claims also broadcast by Channel 4 News relating to spending on hotel bills for activists during the 2014 by-elections in Newark, Clacton and Rochester & Strood.

The investigation will now look into whether the bills counted as campaign spending incurred by the Conservative Party which should have been reported to the Commission.

And it will consider whether spending on the by-elections was reported correctly as part of the party’s spending returns for the last European Parliament election and the general election, in accordance with regulations.

http://www.electionexpenses.co.uk/post/140281794153/election-watchdog-extends-scope-of-investigation

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
5. That's good news I suppose(ish.)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

I can't shake the feeling that all that will happen will be some strong words and a desultory fine, at best. If people were to be imprisoned and/or barred from public office for this sort of thing it would stop.

(Just realised what I said, better add a pic.)

LeftishBrit

(41,202 posts)
6. I have no doubt that they do...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

but isn't it interesting that it only attracts attention when their main opponents are to their RIGHT (UKIP)? The party never cheats in Labour-versus-Tory contests??? I doubt it, somehow.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
8. Not worth a thread of its own, but a development on the above:
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016
Conservatives admit failure to declare election expenses

Channel 4 News has obtained further undeclared receipts showing more than £38,000 was spent accommodating activists at hotels across the country, as part of the BattleBus2015 campaign. The spending was not declared to the Electoral Commission in accordance with the law.

The investigation has also obtained evidence that the BattleBus campaign was focused on local candidates, suggesting the accommodation costs incurred should have been declared on local candidate spending returns, if so this could constitute a criminal offence.

http://www.channel4.com/news/battlebus-conservatives-admit-election-expenses

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
9. I saw that one.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

They showed a clip of one of the Mps in question being interviewed on local news. He said that central office paid for the hotel bills he paid for the leaflets. By admitting it was his leaflets he seems to have shot himself in the foot.


Only Tory volunteers would need to stay in hotels, Labour will do with sleeping on someone's floor.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
10. Channel 4 News seem to be going all-in on this,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

including empty-chairing the Tory MPs who don't respond to their investigation.

It all ties in with the Mark Clarke scandal that's still bubbling along. The battlebus campaign was his brainchild and empire.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
11. They're a tenacious bunch.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

Which is why the Tories shy away. Osborne was filmed refusing to answer C4 questions. His excuse was that he'd just been interviewed by ITV News which owns C4. Obviously a much easier gig.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
12. I don't watch many TV news programmes regularly nowadays,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

but I'd say Channel 4, and not least Jon Snow, stand out from the pack in general.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
13. I tend to drift in and out of the BBC
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

but Channel 4 a lot better. I sometimes see Al Jazeera especially when it's a day like yesterday when the BBC is just about Liz at ninety.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
14. This is still grinding on.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 06:41 PM
Apr 2016

Just an update for completeness:

Election expenses: Watchdog requests investigation extension

Following months of investigations by Channel 4 News, the Electoral Commission has requested an extension to the time limit available to pursue possible criminal prosecutions regarding Conservative Party campaign spending returns.

Bob Posner, Director of Party and Election Finance & Legal Counsel at the Electoral Commission said, "The police and the CPS both have the power to apply to the Courts to extend the time limit on bringing criminal prosecutions for electoral offences to allow for full investigations to take place. We have requested that they consider doing this."

Representatives of the Electoral Commission and the Crown Prosecution Service will hold also hold a summit with a number of police forces to discuss the Conservative Party's election expenses next week.

http://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-regulator-asks-for-investigation-extensio

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
15. As folks may be aware, there have been more developments in all this.
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:25 AM
May 2016

The Electoral Commission is pressing ahead with action, and a number of police forces are investigating the bus tour expenditure.

Now there's this as well:

Police asked to investigate Conservative election letters

Police have been asked to investigate claims letters sent in David Cameron's name led to a breach of election law.

The former Liberal Democrat MP Adrian Sanders has demanded Devon and Cornwall Police take action.

A Conservative Party spokesman said they did not fall under constituency spending restrictions because they did not name the party's local candidate.

Mr Sanders, who lost his Torbay seat to Conservative Kevin Foster in the 2015 general election, said: "It is a specific targeted mailshot to a voter in a given constituency saying vote for our candidate in that constituency.

"That has to be a local cost, not a national expense."...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36284335


Here's the end of one of the letters:



The article goes on to outline some developments in the bus tour investigation.
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