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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:44 PM Feb 2014

Be so careful updating or downloading free software.

I just had the experience of updating my Fox It Reader, which I use as my default PDF instead of Adobe Reader. At the end of the download it added Search Protect. NIS refused to let me install it, so I did not. But it surprised me how easy it would have been. I was downloading directly from the Fox It site, so doubly upset.

Here is info on Search Protect:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/protect_other-protect_scanning/search-protect-conduit/7b0c62d9-1819-414a-96c8-a512f24b3a5b

One article says:

See: http://malwaretips.com/blogs/conduit-search-removal/

Yes, you should remove it.

It is a browser hijack in that it changes your home page and search provider. This component insures that any changes made to the search provider subsequently will revert back to Conduit.


Then after I finished the update, I restarted the computer. Trojan Killer pops up with two more.

PUP.Optional.Conduit.A.an!L

And Open Candy. Both appear to be hijackers.

Link:http://www.crn.com/news/security/240155643/microsoft-warning-free-software-could-contain-hidden-malware.htm

Microsoft recommends users download software directly from the software maker's official website. Avoid links from forum posts because they can lead to repackaged, malware-laden software, Pornasdoro said.

Version 13 of the Microsoft Security Threat Report highlighted the technique of bundling malicious software in legitimate software applications. The technique has been popular with adware designed to send system data and an individual's browsing habits to an aggressive ad network without the victim's consent.

OpenCandy, an adware program, was detected running with some third-party software last August. DealPly, another program that displays search results based on a user's browsing habits, was labeled adware by Microsoft. It was being bundled with third-party applications as an browser add-on.

Mobile devices are also not immune, with freely available versions of legitimate mobile applications sometimes packaged alongside mobile spyware. Microsoft warned Android users earlier this year that a rootkit was detected bundled in a legitimate Android application. Gingermaster, a threat detected with certain clean applications, apparently contained a malicious image file that could root the device. A Google update now blocks the attack. The notorious DroidDream infection was also detected embedded in otherwise harmless applications.


Full scans by Trojan Killer, Norton Internet Security, and Malwarebytes (free) indicate it's all clean now.

I followed every direction about downloading direction from the website. I probably wouldn't have downloaded the Search Protect, but Norton jumped it before I even had time to think. Since it is IN the update for Fox It, I assume they know it is there. Right?

This is really getting a little scary. I have never had problems like this.

All this after getting rid of a bad hijacker infection I got when downloaded VLC Media, being diverted to the Cnet site, which I trusted.

I am getting edgy about this now.



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Be so careful updating or downloading free software. (Original Post) madfloridian Feb 2014 OP
Unwanted programs within updates elifino Feb 2014 #1
When I tried to update Flash Player yesterday from their website...Norton called it a trojan. madfloridian Feb 2014 #3
Could be a false positive from Norton. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #4
The warning from Norton said madfloridian Feb 2014 #8
I've had stuff identified as a trojan that other security software said was fine. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #9
Unchecky douglas9 Feb 2014 #2
What if there is no option to uncheck or check? madfloridian Feb 2014 #6
PDF-XChange Viewer (Free) douglas9 Feb 2014 #10
My favorite pdf veiwer too! gvstn Feb 2014 #13
I think I used that once, sounds familiar. madfloridian Feb 2014 #14
I use majorgeeks for most of my free downloads. gvstn Feb 2014 #12
ninite gvstn Feb 2014 #5
Looks like a good program. madfloridian Feb 2014 #7
The pro version is great whistler162 Feb 2014 #11
I have had some success with AdwCleaner .............. wandy Mar 2014 #15

elifino

(366 posts)
1. Unwanted programs within updates
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:13 AM
Feb 2014

I work in IT, this is becoming a real problem with several other program updates. Examples are Flash Player, Java, and Chrome install. I have several everyday to remove from users workstation. Some things to look for in the Program Files Directory are My PC Backup, anything about shopping or games. You are correct that Malwarebytes can detect and remove most of this type of mal-ware, other programs I have found useful are JunkWare Removal Tool and Vipre anti-virus.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
3. When I tried to update Flash Player yesterday from their website...Norton called it a trojan.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:46 AM
Feb 2014

Would not let me download it. Finally Secunia PSI noticed it needed updating, and I let them. It worked. Will have to look at the log files to see what trojan Norton named.

Do these websites know, or they aware, that this malware is in their download? Do they do it on purpose?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
4. Could be a false positive from Norton.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:31 PM
Feb 2014

To me Norton's about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
8. The warning from Norton said
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:51 PM
Feb 2014

generics.exe contained the Trojan.ADH.2

I looked up both:

Trojan.ADH.2

http://www.bing.com/search?q=trojan.adh.2&FORM=HDRSC1

genericss.exe

http://www.bing.com/search?q=genericss.exe&qs=HS&pq=genericss.exe&sc=3-13&sp=1&FORM=QBRE&cvid=f6f46a4656dd4e09a322075e5a82bd8c

About all that appears is just for generic.exe. I actually had a file called genericss.exe, and I see nothing much about it.

I don't think it is a false positive.




hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
9. I've had stuff identified as a trojan that other security software said was fine.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:54 PM
Feb 2014

MacAfee once identifed an .exe file I had as a particularly nasty trojan. MSE, Malwarebytes, Kaspersky and Avast all said nothing wrong with it.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. What if there is no option to uncheck or check?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:06 PM
Feb 2014

That's been the case. The Search Protect was actually part of the installation itself, although at the end of it. It gave me no option until Norton caught it, then I had the option of just finishing the installation without it. It really wasn't a choice. Would that program catch things added on like that?

I may try it. I am getting to the point I don't trust any websites.

douglas9

(4,358 posts)
10. PDF-XChange Viewer (Free)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

Like yourself became fed up with Foxit after a couple of years. Always had to be careful of the updates. Dumped Foxit and went with PDF-XChange Viewer. Smaller size and far superior to Adobe or Foxit. No regrets.

http://www.tracker-software.com/pdf-xchange-products-comparison-chart

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
14. I think I used that once, sounds familiar.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:05 PM
Feb 2014

Will probably change from Fox It after all they have put me through recently.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
12. I use majorgeeks for most of my free downloads.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:02 PM
Feb 2014

They don't add anything and they usually disclose if there are additional programs included and warn you to pay attention during install.

For example imgburn which is a good program but comes bundled has a warning at the end of the description in red typeface warning you to pay attention during install. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/imgburn.html

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
5. ninite
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:59 PM
Feb 2014

Has been around for quite a while. The installer is very good at keeping the "extras" out of the download.

http://ninite.com/

The unchecky program someone mentioned is probably very similar.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
11. The pro version is great
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

since you can select not to add the shortcut and/or not check for updates.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
15. I have had some success with AdwCleaner ..............
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:37 PM
Mar 2014

In case you forget to "just say no" to all of the bloatware garbage, this may help.
http://general-changelog-team.fr/fr/downloads/viewdownload/20-outils-de-xplode/2-adwcleaner

It is a transparent install (simi standalone with no register entries) just makes a log and qurantine folder.
It will remove that if you tell it to.
It's process will detect first then allow you to decide what to get rid of. This is good as it is intensive and may mistake things like the Express Gate updater as a problem. It will let you decide.
It will also remove unwanted browser add ons; register entries et all.

The downside is it's native language is not exactly one I speak. Pick around the web page and you will find other translations.
It is a standalone tool and as such, at least the last update, it will complacently remove itself and take you to the web page to get the latest level.

Worth trying. Remember to read the instructions first.

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