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siligut

(12,272 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:31 PM Mar 2013

How can a computer not connected to the Internet or with new software get a virus?

My old computer with the big butt monitor is not connected to the Internet and I have not added any new software for over a year.

However, Trend Micro Antivirus says it just found TROJ ELITEWRAP.A on it.

I do not keep Trend Micro Antivirus updated.

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How can a computer not connected to the Internet or with new software get a virus? (Original Post) siligut Mar 2013 OP
USB drive. bluedigger Mar 2013 #1
Haven't connected anything to my old guy siligut Mar 2013 #2
We've probably reached the end of my use to you. bluedigger Mar 2013 #5
I didn't know thumb drives shipped with viruses siligut Mar 2013 #6
I learned about it as a gov't contractor. bluedigger Mar 2013 #10
did you wash your hands before you used it? tk2kewl Mar 2013 #3
That's it, I gave it my cold last month siligut Mar 2013 #12
It is considered malware Mnpaul Mar 2013 #4
Hey, give me a break siligut Mar 2013 #8
THere are many free antivirus programs out there Mnpaul Mar 2013 #15
Possibly a false positive lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #7
This is what I am thinking siligut Mar 2013 #9
I once bought a computer (sans hard drive) and an OEM copy of Win2000...... lastlib Mar 2013 #11
Seriously? siligut Mar 2013 #16
I remember (dimly)... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #13
This is my dinosaur siligut Mar 2013 #14
The latest MS data on this malware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #17
XP 2002 siligut Mar 2013 #18
Even if it is trying to install malware siligut Mar 2013 #19
The malware/virus has been present since the last contact with the outside. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #20
Yes, it is telling me about an old quarantined Trojan horse siligut Mar 2013 #21
Very likely. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #22
Did you update/upgrade your antivirus sw? guardian Mar 2013 #23
Yes, it has been there for years siligut Mar 2013 #24

siligut

(12,272 posts)
2. Haven't connected anything to my old guy
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

Could something remain dormant for years? I scanned again and it isn't finding anything.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
5. We've probably reached the end of my use to you.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:46 PM
Mar 2013

I just know that thumb drives often ship with viruses.

But to answer your question, I don't see why not. Software doesn't spoil, after all.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
6. I didn't know thumb drives shipped with viruses
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:50 PM
Mar 2013

That is useful to me, and yes, maybe it is old and just sprang up now. Wondering if it is happening to anyone else. Thanks

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
10. I learned about it as a gov't contractor.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:55 PM
Mar 2013

Part of our security training was to not hook up personal thumbdrives to gov't systems because of that. If you had a legitimate need for one, you had to requisition a special ($$$) one from supply.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
4. It is considered malware
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:44 PM
Mar 2013

It is a backdoor that allows infections to install. It may have already been there. As for how it got there:

I do not keep Trend Micro Antivirus updated.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
8. Hey, give me a break
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:54 PM
Mar 2013

I only use this computer for storage and Word documents.

Why pay for a rain coat if you never go out in the rain?

My other computers have good protection.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
15. THere are many free antivirus programs out there
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:08 PM
Mar 2013

I use Avast. Microsoft has Security Essentials. You may want to try a free malware scanner as well - Super Antispyware. Cost is no excuse.

Why pay for a rain coat if you never go out in the rain?

I think you already answered that question.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
7. Possibly a false positive
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:53 PM
Mar 2013



Do a Google search on what the alleged offending file is to confirm.
If you have deleted said file by now ... good luck.




lastlib

(23,266 posts)
11. I once bought a computer (sans hard drive) and an OEM copy of Win2000......
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:56 PM
Mar 2013

Installed a new (blank) hard drive, partitioned it, and installed Win2K fresh, then loaded my antivirus software. Before I ever connected it to the Internet, or loaded any other software, it alerted me to a virus! Turned out my OEM Windows disk was loading the virus!

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,481 posts)
13. I remember (dimly)...
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

...there were cases of some computers (don't quote me but could be Gateway) being received new with viruses present.

Is this PC connected in anyway to your network? (Ethernet, WiFi...)

siligut

(12,272 posts)
14. This is my dinosaur
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:06 PM
Mar 2013

I use it for typing Word documents. It has no wifi connection and is not connected by wire. It stands alone. That is why it is confusing. Beginning to think it is an error.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
19. Even if it is trying to install malware
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013

It has no access to them.

Poor virus or Trojan horse would have to take old programs and rewrite them and then attack other neighboring programs.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
20. The malware/virus has been present since the last contact with the outside.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013

It is the obvious answer. There is no magic going on.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,481 posts)
22. Very likely.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

Now and then I have notices appear that hide in tray. I shut down or reboot without noticing them. I think only server versions of windows alert on these during shut downs.

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
23. Did you update/upgrade your antivirus sw?
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:41 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe the problem was there all along? But now the new version of the antivirus sw now recognizes the threat.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
24. Yes, it has been there for years
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

And it was quarantined back then because it couldn't be removed. This is my old computer and it isn't connected to the Internet. I didn't remember the quarantined Trojan horse when I posted asking for help.

I am not sure why it was alerted on again, but it can't do any harm as it has no access to the outside world.

I sure appreciate all of the helpful people in this forum though

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