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intheflow

(28,487 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:39 PM Dec 2011

I think I need to upgrade my operating system.

I'm currently running OS X 10.4.11 and need to upgrade to at least 10.5. Here are my questions:

How do I know what operating system I'm running? I'm thinking I'm not asking this question right, though, which is inhibiting my finding an answer. Everything I find online says something about OS 10.5 Leopard, but I can't find anything on my actual MacBook Pro that says "Leopard" - or any thing other than OS X 10.4.11!

Also, is there a free upgrade available?

Thanks in advance for any help/info you can give!

itf

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I think I need to upgrade my operating system. (Original Post) intheflow Dec 2011 OP
Goto apple symbol in upper left corner, click on it, click on 'about this mac', n2doc Dec 2011 #1
apple dropdown menu chemp Dec 2011 #2
10.4 is tiger struggle4progress Dec 2011 #3
Thanks, it was the Tiger part I was looking for. intheflow Dec 2011 #5
Probably not. If you want to upgrade to a later release, struggle4progress Dec 2011 #8
If you have 10.4.n, you have Tiger Stinky The Clown Dec 2011 #4
Thanks. intheflow Dec 2011 #6
I am almost certain there are no free upgrades. Stinky The Clown Dec 2011 #7
I don't think it is a cheap upgrade winstars Dec 2011 #9
Lions, tiggers, and bears? ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #11
The next system will be called Mac OSX Maru: freshwest Dec 2011 #13
I was wrong. There are the top ten choices now: freshwest Dec 2011 #14
No offense, but does your Mac have a half orb base, with a post holding the screen ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #10
The processor you're running guitar man Dec 2011 #12
10.5 is a great upgrade DissedByBush Dec 2011 #15

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. Goto apple symbol in upper left corner, click on it, click on 'about this mac',
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:41 PM
Dec 2011

it will tell you which operating system version you are using

Also pretty sure no free upgrades available. You might have to email apple support to find out what the most direct upgrade path is, if you upgrade go to snow leopard (10.6) at least if your system is intel based. Lion requires a fairly new mac to run it.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
3. 10.4 is tiger
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:01 PM
Dec 2011

wikipedia suggests 10.4.11 is the final version of tiger

leopard (10.5) is the next release, followed by snow leopard and lion

your actual options might depend on your hardware:
click apple icon, then about this mac, then more info

don't get in a big hurry
eg not all hardware is supported by later releases
... Snow Leopard does not support PowerPC-based Macs ...

intheflow

(28,487 posts)
5. Thanks, it was the Tiger part I was looking for.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:53 PM
Dec 2011

Why they don't specify Tiger when you click on that Apple icon is beyond me.

Do you know if a free upgrade to Leopard 10.5 is available?

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
8. Probably not. If you want to upgrade to a later release,
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:30 PM
Dec 2011

you need to first figure out whether your hardware is supported for the release you want

Suppose, for example, you want to move up to Snow Leopard and it's compatible with your hardware. You may have several options:

(1) Buy a copy of Leopard. Buy a copy of Snow Leopard. Update Tiger to Leopard. Then update Leopard to Snow Leopard.
(2) Buy a copy of Snow Leopard. Try to update Tiger directly to Snow Leopard. Cross your fingers and hope it works.
(3) Make back up copies of everything you want. Do a clean install of Snow Leopard. Then reinstall your other software and move your old your files back onto the machine

(3) is probably preferable, in terms of reliability, but it's likely to be a hassle. (1) may be a more reliable option than (2) but it will also involve buying a copy of Leopard as well as a copy of Snow Leopard

Upgrades can bring unpleasant surprises, too. In Lion, Apple stopped supporting my Apple dialup modum

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
4. If you have 10.4.n, you have Tiger
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:02 PM
Dec 2011

10.5.n was Leopard
10.6.n was Snow Leopard
10.7.n is Lion

You'll probably be okay to go to Snow Leopard, but Lion may be too much if yours is an older machine.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
7. I am almost certain there are no free upgrades.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:59 PM
Dec 2011

There is no free anything from Apple! The upgrades are pretty cheap though. I don't recall what Leopard cost, but Snow Leopard was $29 and Lion is (I **think**) $19 for up to 5 computers.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
9. I don't think it is a cheap upgrade
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 05:31 PM
Dec 2011

It's actually a big deal. People running 10.4.11 who get a new iPod or iPhone need to have iTunes 10 or higher on the computers to sync up. You cannot download iTunes 10 or higher unless you are running Leopard. People are pissed that they cannot use the new iTunes with computers that are not that old. Note below that you need the black retail disc to upgrade because the grey one is machine specific. There is one thread on the Apple discussion forums that is 22 pages long with people complaining about this issue.



Here is some info From Apple Forums:

You need the retail Leopard install disc (which is black, with an 'X' on it).
I understand they can still be obtained from Apple by calling customer services, but the price will be the same as when Leopard was first introduced - about $130.

There are usually a few available on Amazon Marketplace, but at inflated prices.

You cannot use a grey disc 'borrowed' from another Mac.

Leopard 10.5.8 is as far as a PPC Mac can be upgraded; Snow Leopard and later require Intel processors.


From Apple Forums:

Leopard requirements/10.5.x...


* Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor


minimum system requirements


* 512MB of memory (I say 1.5GB for PPC at least, 2-3GB minimum for IntelMacs)

* DVD drive for installation

* 9GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)

Trouble is Apple no longer sells it, check eBay & such for the Retail version, not the Gray Discs...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+leopard+retail+10.5


There are workarounds if the 867MHz is the only hangup...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/

For RAM, see which eMac you have...

http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Models.cfm?Family=emac&sType=Memory

From Apple Forums:

10.5 will install on PowerPC.
-> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
"Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard requires:

A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or Power PC G4 (867 MHz or faster) processor
512 MB memory or more
A DVD drive for installation
9 GB of available disk space or more "

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. The next system will be called Mac OSX Maru:
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:06 PM
Dec 2011
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/07/20/funny-pictures-mac-os-maru/

Resistance to the feline overlords is futile.

Really, Tigers, Leopard and Lions?

We kittehs knew it would come to this.

Our time is NOW.



Skinner, where is my kitteh icon?



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. I was wrong. There are the top ten choices now:
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:16 PM
Dec 2011

OS X, LOLCAT: Top 10 Names For Apple's Next Operating System

Lively discussion Wednesday at MacDaily News about the ‘cat-astrophe’ (thanks SMC) at Apple orginally reported this morning on Forbes.

In short, while Apple’s business is going great, it’s running out of cat names for new itererations of its OS X operating system.

Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, and Show Leopard have all been done. The latest one is Lion.

How do you top that? MacDaily News readers have a few suggestions.

Here are the top 10:

* 10 a Vet - OS X Sphinx
* 9 DavyLow (and others) – OS X Chesire Cat
* 8 SirROm (and others) – OS X Sylvester
* 7 MrMcLargeHuge (and others) – OS X Liger
* 6 Jon (and others) – OS X Hobbes
* 5 Manny – OS X Lion-o
* 4 MrMcLargeHuge (and others) – OS X Tigon
* 3 dinjin201 – OS X LOLCAT
* 2 By popular acclaim, via the MacDaily News poll – ‘OS X Sabretooth’
* 1 Correctu — ‘Mac OS 11 will come after 10.9… it will be called Chilito‘

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2011/11/30/os-x-lolcat-top-10-names-for-apples-next-operating-system/

'Hobbes' fits perfectly with your 'tigger.'

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
10. No offense, but does your Mac have a half orb base, with a post holding the screen
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:06 PM
Dec 2011

In the middle? Cuz, having an OS so gray and wrinkled means your hard drive is probably filled to the max by now.

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
12. The processor you're running
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 09:58 PM
Dec 2011

The processor you're running will determine your maximum OS version.

If you're running a PowerPC Mac, Leopard 10.5.8 is the max OS you can run. If you're running an early Intel, Core Solo or Core Duo, I believe Snow Leopard 10.6.x will be the max OS for it. If I read the info correctly, you have to have a Core 2 Duo or faster to run Lion 10.7

 

DissedByBush

(3,342 posts)
15. 10.5 is a great upgrade
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 01:43 AM
Dec 2011

Boot Camp, Quick Look, Spaces, Time Machine, so many great new features.

I don't think Apple sells Leopard anymore though, just Snow Leopard (10.6).

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