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nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 12:42 PM Feb 2022

Sinema is polling worse in the Democratic primary for her re-election than

Lieberman did during his re-election. Lieberman lost the Democratic nomination to Lamont in 2006 by a 4% margin. Sinema is polling below 30% in the Democratic Primary for the 2024 AZ US Senate Election.

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lark

(23,099 posts)
5. There's lots of things she "should" do, but taking huge $$ from rw donors is at the top of her list.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 12:54 PM
Feb 2022

If they pay her to run, she will run. If they don't, she won't, because she is a joke on her own and she knows it.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
8. If Sinema runs as an Independent who will she hurt?
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

The Democratic nominee- Gallego or Stanton
The Republican nominee- Ducey,Gosar,Biggs,Schwiekert,or Lesko.

lark

(23,099 posts)
11. Democratic folks would be hurt by her run.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:05 PM
Feb 2022

She would be a total null factor in any repug race because of her previous (stated but never acted upon) progressive positions.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
7. Well
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 12:58 PM
Feb 2022

She's spending her time in the Senate making connections...since 2018 her personal wealth has gone from $85,000 to well over $1,000,000. She spends most of her time rubbing elbows with republican donors and very little time doing much for her constituents!

She's in it for the money...I don't believe she was ever in it for the people...

One term...net worth goes up...get a job with a republican lobbying firm...live in Mordor on the Potomac...

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
9. My theory is that McConnell made her an offer she couldn't refuse.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:02 PM
Feb 2022

And he did it as soon as he knew he was going to lose two senators in Ga.

McConnell is a cunning and ruthless sociopath.

I believe he has full psych profiles on all sitting US senators.
And knows exactly what buttons to push to get his desired outcome.

Sinema was a no brainer because of her psych history.

Doc Sportello

(7,522 posts)
15. Hadn't heard that take before
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022

I think it makes a lot of sense. McConnell as a KGB type operative, and as you say, her personal history would trigger a KGB agent's radar.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
17. As soon as he realized he lost the Ga senators, he went into action.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 04:21 PM
Feb 2022

He is clever and ruthless.

No way he would allow the Dems to control the Senate.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
12. There's no fix that can save her in a primary or general...
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:08 PM
Feb 2022

IMO, the only two explanations are:

1) I agree, she has other plans already lined up.
2) She is legitimately completely delusional. If the rumors of her having presidential ambitions are true, then she's definitely in this camp.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
13. Oh yes, there is option three.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:03 PM
Feb 2022

Good catch.

Yes she has a number of really big red flags about her mental health.

In terms of her possible delusions, I am sure they exist because that is what McConnell and her rich donors are telling her.

That would have been one of the carrots dangled in front of her.
And she is crazy enough to believe it.

And yes I agree, the voting fix is a big stretch.

But nothing would surprise me, and they might try to pull that off for her.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
14. My question is:
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:20 PM
Feb 2022
they might try to pull that off for her


Who are "they"? The Democratic party certainly isn't going to be in Sinema's camp if she gets a strong primary challenger, which let's face it, means any primary challenger.

No one in the party is going to stick their neck out to commit massive election fraud to keep her in power, because that's what it would take. If election fraud were a commonplace problem, and the logistical machinery for it was already in existence, even then coming back from such an underwater rating in your own party would be a stretch. But it is not, and it does not. It's simply not a reasonable option, it really doesn't rise even to the level of an unreasonable option.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
16. Oh heavens no, the "they" is certainly not us.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 04:18 PM
Feb 2022

Think about who directly benefits from Sinema's actions.

Then you will have your answer.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
10. There's no way she'd win as an independent either.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

If she runs as an independent, it would just screw with the election, but she'd have zero chance of winning. Her polling is underwater by 65 points with Democrats, but she's also got a net negative rating with independents by nearly 40 points. Her only constituency is her base of wealthy donors, and there's not nearly enough votes there to win a primary or general election.

It's possible if she runs as an independent that she might draw more republican, or republican minded votes than Democratic leaning ones, but that's not a chance I'd invite if I had the choice. I just want her gone, as soon as it can be managed.

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