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Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:42 AM

2012 is going to be a landslide.

Is it just me, but does anyone else see that Obama will win in the 2012 election by a total landslide? I have never in my life seen so many incompetent idiots running for president. Fortunately they represent the GOP. Most of my far right friends (Email wars) have been extremely quiet over the past few months. I'm sure it's embarrassing to even be associated with their party. I would suspect that 80%(I'm guessing here) of America sees this too. That represents a total landslide. Why they even waste their time and money is beyond me.

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Reply 2012 is going to be a landslide. (Original post)
SmittynMo Dec 2011 OP
steve2470 Dec 2011 #1
Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #9
steve2470 Dec 2011 #10
freshwest Dec 2011 #21
Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #2
steve2470 Dec 2011 #3
airplaneman Dec 2011 #4
freshwest Dec 2011 #22
Richard Charnin Dec 2011 #5
PSPS Dec 2011 #6
Andy823 Dec 2011 #29
DevonRex Dec 2011 #7
Wait Wut Dec 2011 #14
SmittynMo Dec 2011 #16
limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #8
freshwest Dec 2011 #11
ellisonz Dec 2011 #12
boxman15 Dec 2011 #24
ellisonz Dec 2011 #27
OKNancy Dec 2011 #13
GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #26
SmittynMo Dec 2011 #15
Hutzpa Dec 2011 #17
WI_DEM Dec 2011 #18
HappyMe Dec 2011 #19
livetohike Dec 2011 #20
deacon Dec 2011 #23
barbtries Dec 2011 #25
spin Dec 2011 #28
jimlup Dec 2011 #30

Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:47 AM

1. I certainly will vote for President Obama but I don't see a landslide, yet

Remember the elections of 2000 and 2004, for proof of how many Americans vote against their own interests.

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Response to Richard Charnin (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:03 AM

10. I'll accept your figures, however, that doesn't negate my point

The Republican Party represents the wealthy and the very conservative. The REST of us belong in the Democratic Party. Until the Republican Party fundamentally changes, every election *should* be a cakewalk for Democrats. It should not even be close. The media, election fraud, and voter apathy/ignorance only make it close.

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Response to Richard Charnin (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:15 PM

21. +1,000

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:04 AM

2. It will be if (1) we can trust the electronic voting machines and (2) Republicans don't legislate

laws that disenfranchise whole groups of people.

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:06 AM

3. good points OaItW nt

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:18 AM

4. It is very important for all of us Democrats to get out and vote for Obama

I dont think it will be a landslide and I think we should all encourage everyone we know to vote. Complacancy is dangerous. Voting for a third party is probably a give-away vote for the republicans. I very much want to see Obama get 8 years. He most likely will be bolder in his second term. I hear too many liberals say they will not vote or vote 3rd party. He is not perfect but he is on our side, the republicans are not. The 60 minutes interview was excellent. We had 8 years of Bush and Reagan. If Obama looses I will be very disappointed in the american people as a group. So I will absolutely vote for Obama in 2012!!!
-Airplane

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:17 PM

22. Greg Palast predicted it will take massive numbers to overcome GOP fraud. That still holds true.

The outpouring in 2008, with people standing in line, waiting overnight to vote may not happen next year. I agree that we can't afford to be complacent in the slightest. The situation is much worse now than it was then.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:33 AM

5. Obama will need a landslide to win - because Election Fraud will reduce his True Vote by 5%.

 


He needs to win by at least 55-45%...

http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/category/2012-election/

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:44 AM

6. We all hope so. But without a simultaneous 'landslide' in the House and Senate, it won't matter much

With the filibuster rules, we apparently need over 60 reliable votes to pass anything in the Senate.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:42 PM

29. I agree.

I honestly think the right knows they don't stand a chance, that's why they have the "clowns" they have running for the nomination. The same thing happened in 2008, they knew they didn't stand a chance so they let the least likely person, McCain, have his last chance to make a run for the WH.

This time the field of "clowns" they have running, the bottom of the barrel, make it even more obvious that they are keeping their so called "big guns", Jeb, Christie, Daniels, etc. on the side lines till 2016. This time I think they will be trying to steal the congressional races, and will be pumping money into those races, more so than the race for president.

They have no plan at all on how to fix the mess that Bush and his gang of morons got us into, and keeping president Obama in office, with them still in control of at least one branch of congress blocking everything, works well for them getting control in 2016. By then they hope the mess Bush and company made of the "world" will have smoothed over and they won't have to come up with any "real" plans or ideas.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:56 AM

7. I love this thread. Just look at all of you!

Wonderful people engaging in thoughtful discussion.

I think that many people realize that the republicans are dangerous fools. they're running on fundie religion, most of them. And a lot of kooky ideas like letting people die rather than making sure they get medical care.

The debates are proving to be solid gold for us. Please keep posting.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 09:44 AM

14. I can't wait for the debates!

I love the way Pres. Obama is just sitting back, watching the circus. Just waiting to see which of the Elmer Fudd's he gets to play with.

I live in AZ and am surrounded by Reps and Cons. Yes, they're pretty quiet. When I casually bring up their "field", they look terrified. One of the more intelligent ones told me last week that he's pretty certain that Pres. Obama will be reelected. He then said something that really struck me, "Hopefully, hope will eventually work." I had to end the conversation there. Didn't wanna push it.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:43 AM

16. I too love the way Obama is handling this.

Wasn't he on Leno, or Letterman a month ago saying "I''m just waiting to see who gets voted off the island". Ya gotta love it.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:15 AM

8. I hope you're right but let's not be overconfident.

House and Senate elections are just as important probably

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:38 AM

11. I don't see it as being easy yet, but nonetheless:

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 05:43 AM

12. 2012 is going to be a lot of work.

And I'm frankly way more concerned about Congress than the Presidential race.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:16 PM

24. ^This

Congress is where I'm focusing my attention in 2012. I have little doubt Obama will win, especially if Gingrich is the candidate. I will work to get as many out for Obama as possible, of course, but Congress is the main focus of mine. If we don't flip Congress to the left as much as possible, it's more of the same regardless of who's in the White House.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:57 PM

27. ^This

I had my doubts about you at first boxman15, but very clearly we see things more alike than I thought. Good to have you at DU!



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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:40 AM

13. Interesting. This was just posted on the Daily Beast

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/13/michael-tomasky-could-obama-be-headed-for-a-landslide.html

Michael Tomasky: Could Obama Be Headed for a Landslide?

Obama’s approval rating is soft, but new polls of South Carolina and Florida show him ahead of Gingrich and Romney. Michael Tomasky asks: could the GOP be headed for disaster?

article is at the link

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:52 PM

26. That South Carolina poll still blows my mind.

One would never guess that based on the shit that gets published in my local fish wrap. With the exception of Jim Clyburn, the entire Congressional contingent from this state, and our pathetic excuse for a Governor, are all teabaggers.

Judging by this GOP primary, I don't think they really want the Presidency back. As many others here have suggested, I think they're setting up a big crash that will be blamed on President Obama and the Democrats. Just look at how many of them are trying to blame the real estate crash on Barney Frank.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:36 AM

15. You all have good points.

Complacency? I certainly hope not. We all know what we have to do in November, and America WILL come through. Keep spreading the word. I expect it will be a total embarrassment for the GOP in the numbers game and total outcome. And of course, you cannot deny all the accomplishments Obama has done in the past 3 years. Please look up "Obama accomplishments" on the web. I think many will be surprised. And then I found it even more surprising that someone posted a similar ad about the landslide, afterwards. This is a no brainer. Vote for the idiots, or the one that has proven himself already. Obama represents the middle class and the GOP has proven over and over they do not. It also appears that the GOP wants to take more rights from you every waking moment. What more do we need?

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:48 AM

17. The hard work starts now

the republicans needs to be the minority with no voice, they're not
good for this country we have seen it and they've proven it.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:50 AM

18. I think it is possible

if the economy continues to pick up steam and jobs can be created on a faster pace and unemployment can get to 8% or below (remember Ronald Reagan won in 1984 with a nearly 8% unemployment rate by a landslide), and consumer confidence picks up--then yes, I think the President has a very good chance of winning a very big victory.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:18 PM

19. I hope people get out there and vote for the guy.

Writing in somebody else is just handing it over to the repubs.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:07 PM

20. I agree - especially now that Newt is in the race

In a couple of months, it will be clear who is headed for the GOP nomination and then the real campaigning on the Democratic side will start. If we get any good economic news by June - this race will be over, imo.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:07 PM

23. A landslide will depend on his opponent. I see a win though and my main concern is really about

Fire Boehner. This unstable mental case needs to go.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:39 PM

25. not just you.

of course we'll need a landslide to defeat whatever cheating the republicans will engage in.

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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 05:35 PM

28. The economy is starting to shows signs of real improvement ...

and I believe that is the most important factor in the upcoming election. If things continue to look up, Obama gains reelection. If things go downhill again, which could be caused by a economic collapse in Europe, Obama will have a harder time against Romney or maybe even Newt.



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Response to SmittynMo (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:24 PM

30. It won't be that high ...

I agree that it will be a landslide but that will depend somewhat on how much the frustration with our situation really plays out. Obama is a skilled politician and he will play to the sweet spot but keep in mind that are large percentage of people who vote republican are essentially deranged and totally duped by the propaganda meme's of the ultra-right media outlets like FOX.

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