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BREAKING: BS camp is accusing the Clinton camp & DNC of colluding to violate campaign finan (HRC GP) (Original Post) Her Sister Apr 2016 OP
he's Bernader. Third party saboteur and egomaniac. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
crush crush Her Sister Apr 2016 #2
LOL, k&R fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #28
LOL.. Yup. misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #31
THe High Sparrow & Faith Militant analogy obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #58
Shame! Shame! Shame! nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #59
Bernie ought to clean his own house first leftofcool Apr 2016 #3
I was thinking the same, he has had two list of over limit letters from FEC, maybe the time could Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #50
It's called "Looky over there!" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #60
Desperation. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #4
Exactly right DesertRat Apr 2016 #41
Desperate and at it's heart- dishonest. Like stealing data from the DNC KittyWampus Apr 2016 #54
I hate this guy and his campaign. SaschaHM Apr 2016 #5
Let's make this easier: what excuse ISN'T Sanders using to explain why his clock is getting cleaned? Squinch Apr 2016 #6
"Our clock wasn't that dirty to begin with, so it wasn't REALLY cleaned after all." NurseJackie Apr 2016 #7
"Hillary poured hot sauce in our clock and now it won't work!" Squinch Apr 2016 #11
This is Sanders actively trying to prevent Democrats from being elected. Past time for him to go. IamMab Apr 2016 #8
Maybe he should clean up his own campaign contributions radical noodle Apr 2016 #9
How bout revealing the source of the $10 mill campaign donation, bernie misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #34
Just some nut OKNancy Apr 2016 #10
Is this Trump's attorney? postatomic Apr 2016 #12
Hoo boy! They are running scared! Trying to distract from Bernie's bad week ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #13
..though you really did try to (cheat your way ) make it, misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #43
:-) NurseJackie Apr 2016 #44
Okay, now he's 2naSalit Apr 2016 #14
Ammo to show this isn't true if anyone needs it OKNancy Apr 2016 #15
He's getting desperate! Haveadream Apr 2016 #16
He'll have to sue the pope for saying he only got a handshake. Koinos Apr 2016 #29
Lower and lower they go. UtahLib Apr 2016 #17
Gee! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #18
These neophytes are really reaching. This is so ridiculous. How about the Sanders campaign... George II Apr 2016 #19
This is right out of the republican handbook HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #20
I have thought exactly that about BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #22
I am trying VERY hard to remember BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #21
Laughable. Why would they even do this when there is absolutely no reason to do it? stopbush Apr 2016 #23
They want this to be the news tomorrow! Her Sister Apr 2016 #24
Yes, it will be "another Hillary scandal," even though stopbush Apr 2016 #25
Why isn't the FEC all over this if it's true? They're all over the Sanders campaign for stopbush Apr 2016 #30
I just donated to HER! Her Sister Apr 2016 #26
yep, I just chipped in because of this. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #33
Voting...... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #40
Good idea. I will too! nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #46
Ludicrous and sad SharonClark Apr 2016 #27
That sound you hear is REAL Democrats digging in their heels to support Hillary. stopbush Apr 2016 #32
If Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump had a baby it would be.... Walk away Apr 2016 #35
Haaha it would be Bernald Sandump misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #45
Just the same! Sue the party you pushed your way into.... Walk away Apr 2016 #47
Exactly. They both stepped in to defraud the election system misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #55
LOL Iamaartist Apr 2016 #36
I do hope any automatic delegates that have committed to Sanders are rethinking it. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #37
Bernie is not a Democrat.... apcalc Apr 2016 #38
Circling the drain ladym55 Apr 2016 #39
Oh, this is rich! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #42
And with this stunt apcalc Apr 2016 #48
Nah, he knows that won't happen. Koinos Apr 2016 #49
The biggest mistake the dnc made drray23 Apr 2016 #51
What a jerk Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #52
HOW many letters have the FEC sent Sanders now? Four, five? So many I've lost count. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #53
He's gotta... JSup Apr 2016 #56
Acts of desperation liberal N proud Apr 2016 #57
The initials BS are fitting Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #61
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. he's Bernader. Third party saboteur and egomaniac.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

We are going to crush him in NY tomorrow, and then the Democrats in PA and MD and CT and DE and RI will do the same.

And then we can turn to the Republicans while leaving the High Sparrow to preach to his Faith Militant in relative obscurity.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. Bernie ought to clean his own house first
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

Not to mention the 600K of poor people's money he spent on a trip to Rome which is illegal.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
50. I was thinking the same, he has had two list of over limit letters from FEC, maybe the time could
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

be better spent checking on the Bernie records and making sure the $27 contributors did not go over the limit of $2700.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
54. Desperate and at it's heart- dishonest. Like stealing data from the DNC
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

and then accusing the DNC and Clinton of wrong doing.

Repeatedly get cited by the FEC for violations and accuse Clinton.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
5. I hate this guy and his campaign.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

Don't watch MSNBC today btw. They're parroting this without refuting it and they're trying to talk up Sander's chances in NYC. They're going so hard that even I felt like he had a shot after 15 minutes. They are also working on his post-lose spin.

Squinch

(50,946 posts)
6. Let's make this easier: what excuse ISN'T Sanders using to explain why his clock is getting cleaned?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

That list is much shorter.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
8. This is Sanders actively trying to prevent Democrats from being elected. Past time for him to go.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

Go away, Bernie. Go back to the sewers of the Senate where you hid yourself away for your whole career.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
9. Maybe he should clean up his own campaign contributions
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

before pointing his nasty flying finger at anyone else. I am learning to despise this man and his advisors.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
34. How bout revealing the source of the $10 mill campaign donation, bernie
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

FEC is still waiting...

TEN MILLION DOLLARS unaccounted for. Still.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
10. Just some nut
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

Also the Victory Fund is a PAC. Limits don't apply. Just like HillPac that gave Bernard $10,000 to run for the Senate.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
12. Is this Trump's attorney?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016
"appears to be using funds"

"appears to represent an impermissible in-kind contribution from the DNC"

This is just a bullshit action by Bernie 2016 and a hack attorney. And "this appears to be a sleazy political move".


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Hoo boy! They are running scared! Trying to distract from Bernie's bad week ...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

... but it's too late, baby now it's too late.

2naSalit

(86,533 posts)
14. Okay, now he's
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

stumbled off into drumpfland!! When his gang come careening into town, stay off the sidewalks!

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. These neophytes are really reaching. This is so ridiculous. How about the Sanders campaign...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

....sending out a half dozen emails a day via "democracyforamerica"?

Who owns that server and email system? Not the Sanders committee. So THEY are violating the campaign finance laws.

And how about those three letters with reams of illegal contributions? They're a total of 500 pages now - 95 the first time, 150 the second time, and now just a few days ago 250 pages.

They should work on getting their own house in order before criticizing the Clinton campaign.

"Let those who are without sin cast the first stone".

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
20. This is right out of the republican handbook
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

Whatever sleazy thing you're doing...accuse the other side of doing it first.

It lends credence to the 'but both sides do it' myth.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
21. I am trying VERY hard to remember
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

why I EVER believed that Bernie cared enough about people so that his entry into this race as a Dem would be a good thing.

Silly, silly me! He has shown himself to be the Trump of the Left; his ego is every bit as large as Trump's and some of his supporters, although they claim to be "progressive" (I now have an active dislike of that word and much prefer "liberal;" if "liberal" was good enough for JFK and RFK, it's good enough for me!), act much more like authoritarians and fascists. Life must be on their terms and their terms alone.

If the GOP actually manages to thwart Trump's nomination, I am beginning to believe that a Trump-Sanders third-party ticket is not beyond the realm of possibility. The only problem with that might be that neither would be willing to be second on the ticket because each one is so wholly convinced of his own righteousness,

I cannot wait for tomorrow to be over. Bernie's desperation is pathetic. It's also disgusting.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
25. Yes, it will be "another Hillary scandal," even though
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

it's total bullshit.

Sanders has got to go. What an asshole.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
30. Why isn't the FEC all over this if it's true? They're all over the Sanders campaign for
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

their illegal donations. Are we to believe the FEC is biased against Sanders?

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
27. Ludicrous and sad
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders is trying to do to Hillary what the repugs have tried to do to Obama - make her/him illegitimate and unqualified. What the two attempts have in common is a self-righteous believe in their own entitlement.

We haven't let the repugs define Obama and we won't let the BS campaign bring down Hillary.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
32. That sound you hear is REAL Democrats digging in their heels to support Hillary.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

Every stunt Sanders pulls has the opposite effect of that for which he hoped. You think he'd have figured that out by now.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
35. If Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump had a baby it would be....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders. Their DNA is an exact match!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
47. Just the same! Sue the party you pushed your way into....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

Act like a jerk. When they both lose to Hillary Clinton, they can go off an sue each other.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
55. Exactly. They both stepped in to defraud the election system
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

Neither have what it takes to lead a nation in the world today. No policy, no respect for all & they don't care beyond their cult followers.
They're in this race to grandstand & mock.
Their egos lead their noses.
And they make up the game as they go along.

They have no plan beyond the sound of their own voices.
And their cult applauds the stupidity of both of them while they laugh all the way to the bank.

They are the Koch purchased Teaparty. The John Birchers & Libertarians and they are one n the same.
What would the Kochs do to have both the RW & LW majority in our govt. Imagine what they would spend to have that much control. To own both House & Senate & Office of Presidency?
There would be no democracy, no republic, only the Kochs in full control of our United States of America.

This is what we get with the two candidates who are now campaigning in sync to keep the only Democrat from keeping our government of, by & for ALL people.

They would both like to destroy our delegate system of primary election by claiming anything in their own way is corrupt.
Thank the gods for the Dem Super Delegates.
They are our last stronghold against the Koch LW Teaparty.
Trump & Sanders are their voices in 2016.
They can destroy the Republican Party but will never touch the Dems.
Hillary Clinton knows who they are & what their intent is in the 2016 race.
We are all beginning to know it too. Including the Dem Super Delegates

Thank you.



LiberalFighter

(50,876 posts)
37. I do hope any automatic delegates that have committed to Sanders are rethinking it.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders will be viewed the same as the Republican Senators view Cruz.

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
38. Bernie is not a Democrat....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

" It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

Bernie Sanders
Socialist Scholars Conference
New York City, April 1990

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
39. Circling the drain
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie's ego has gotten the best of him, and he is basically not cut out for politics at this level. That becomes increasingly obvious with each passing day. The sad thing is that the M$M wants a horse race for ratings SO badly that they feed this nonsense. Bernie STILL hasn't gotten that many hard questions thrown his way.

Bernie in the general would be toast, and the Rethugs are hoping and praying for that, so they feed the frenzy in their own back-handed, sleazy way.

Bernie has things to say that charm many--breaking up big banks, making education free, etc., but does not have the political chops to make ANY of it happen.

Personally, I want to know who funded ALL of the TV ads he ran in Ohio before the primary. His ads were far more frequent than hers.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
42. Oh, this is rich!
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

The SANDERS campaign accusing the CLINTON campaign (and the DNC) of violating campaign finance law? The FEC is after Sanders for unlawful individual contributions.

As for the Hillary Victory Fund, it's interesting that Sanders is targeting it in particular. That fund is a joint fund with the DNC that is used to raise funds for Democrats up and down the ticket. Yes, that's right. Sanders, who also has a joint fund with the DNC ($1,000 contributed by the DNC and is sitting languishing) is actually whining about the fact that down-ticket Democrats are being helped.

For more information on the Victory Fund if you need it: http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/14/like-night-and-day-comparing-bernie-sanders-down-ballot-fundraising-to-that-of-hillary-clinton

The article compares Hillary's robust fundraising for down-ticket with Sanders extreme disinterest and is very interesting. Here's a clip:

So let's then compare Sanders' approach to down-ballot fundraising with Hillary Clinton. In addition to fundraising for her own political campaign, Clinton created what has become known as the Hillary Victory Fund in August of 2015. The Victory Fund, as it is called, is a joint fundraising committee for Hillary for America, the Democratic National Committee, and 33 state Democratic Party committees and is designed to raise funds for Democratic candidates from the top of the ticket on downwards. The establishment of this fund was actually seen as unusual, as previous "victory funds" had not been established by presidential candidates until after they had been formally nominated at their party's convention. However, Clinton and the DNC wanted to raise funds early in an effort to identify key races and to also help support already established candidates in their effort to go up against the big money of the Koch Brothers, whom they knew would be targeting select competitive House and Senate races. With her Victory Fund, Clinton was essentially creating an early political roadmap to retake the Senate and to make gains in the House come the November election.

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
48. And with this stunt
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

He still has the audacity to think the DEMOCRATIC superdelegates will support him.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
49. Nah, he knows that won't happen.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

He just wants to break the system so that nobody else can use it.

The only thing that will break is his future political career. I think he will officially announce his retirement from the Senate and will not run again. No Democrat -- not even Elizabeth Warren -- will have anything to do with him.

He can sell Eugene Debs videos to pay off his FEC penalties.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
51. The biggest mistake the dnc made
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:24 PM
Apr 2016

was to allow Bernie to run as a democrat. If you recall at the start of the caimpaign there were issues with Sanders getting on the ballot as a dem and the dnc had to back him up to convince states that he was a dem.

They should have let him run as an independent. Without the apparatus of the dnc he would have crashed and burned within a month.

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