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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:03 PM Apr 2016

Sanders Despised Democrats In 1980s, Said A JFK Speech Once Made Him Sick

Every time I see BS supporters try to appropriate JFK's legacy I wonder if they know Bernie at all.

Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders once said that he was “physically nauseated” by a speech made by President John F. Kennedy when Sanders was a young man, because Kennedy’s “hatred for the Cuban Revolution […] was so strong.”

“Kennedy was young and appealing and ostensibly liberal,” Sanders reminisced in a 1987 interview with The Gadfly, a student newspaper at the University of Vermont. “But I think at that point, seeing through Kennedy, and what liberalism was, was probably a significant step for me to understand that conventional politics or liberalism was not what was relevant.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/bernie-sanders-despised-democrats-in-1980s-said-a-jfk-speech#.ybz1DVn79


Saw through JFK. Saw through liberalism. So disturbed by JFK that he wanted to vomit. How many more ways could he have expressed it?

This is how President Kennedy defined liberalism:


September 14, 1960

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

.........more..........

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/jfk-nyliberal/


The pretentious young Bernie saw through it all. That guy was throwing our heroes under the bus before most of his supporters were born. And now they want to share John Fitzgerald Kennedy's mantle with the Bernster? I don't think so.

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Sanders Despised Democrats In 1980s, Said A JFK Speech Once Made Him Sick (Original Post) Rose Siding Apr 2016 OP
In the days ahead, I suspect we'll see more of the media publishing some of the aspects of Sanders IamMab Apr 2016 #1
I hope, but this is from an old piece Rose Siding Apr 2016 #2
Yeah? I wonder what JFK would think of BS' perfomance in this 2016 Cha Apr 2016 #3
Sanders shares a love of a phrase used by Nader Gothmog Apr 2016 #4
Their goals were similar Rose Siding Apr 2016 #5
Until he ran on a third-party ticket BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #7
I don't think so either! Well done! pandr32 Apr 2016 #6
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
1. In the days ahead, I suspect we'll see more of the media publishing some of the aspects of Sanders
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

which Clinton was too classy to highlight during the primary.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
2. I hope, but this is from an old piece
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

It's just that this morning I came across a post trying to compare BS dream works with JFK's space program. So lame and ahistorical.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
3. Yeah? I wonder what JFK would think of BS' perfomance in this 2016
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

Democratic Primary if he were alive today?

I'm guessing .. about the same as President Obama's.. not very much.

Mahalo Rose~

Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
4. Sanders shares a love of a phrase used by Nader
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:14 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders and the traitor Nader share a love of stating that there is no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties and have even used the same sad terminology. Sanders first used the same terminology of stating that there are no differences between the Democratic Party and the Republican party when he ran as a spoiler for governor. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/04/when-bernie-sanders-ran-against-vermont/kNP6xUupbQ3Qbg9UUelvVM/story.html?p1=Article_Trending_Most_Viewed

Hillary Clinton is not the first progressive Democratic woman to be challenged by Bernie Sanders. He ran against me in 1986 when I was running for my second term as governor of Vermont. At that time he had little affinity for the Democratic Party. When advised that his third-party candidacy might result in a Republican victory, he saw no difference between Democrats and Republicans, saying: “It is absolutely fair to say you are dealing with Tweedledum and Tweedledee.”[/div
After Sanders used this termination, Nader joined in first http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/30/ralph-nader/nader-almost-said-gore-bush-but-not-quite/

Again and again throughout the campaign, Nader implied that he thought Bush and Gore equally objectionable. "It doesn't matter who is in the White House, Gore or Bush, for the vast majority of government departments and agencies," Nader said in a news conference in September 2000.

"The only difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush is the velocity with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door," he told supporters in California a month later.

"It's a Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dum vote," Nader said in Philadelphia four days before the election, repeating a favorite refrain of his. "Both parties are selling our government to big business paymasters. ...That's a pretty serious similarity."

Nader also failed to challenge Sam Donaldson on ABC's This Week when Donaldson said, "You don't think it matters. You've said it doesn't matter to you who is the president of the United States, Bush or Gore."

Nader replied, "Because it's the permanent corporate government that's running the show here ... you can see they're morphing more and more on more and more issues into one corporate party."

Sanders needs to back down from this crap if he wants to speak at the national convention

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
5. Their goals were similar
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

One way they differ is that Nader had some sort of history of accomplishment in the Consumer Protection Agency.

Isn't it ironic that Sanders is so reliant on the youth vote when he never bothered to vote until he was in him mid thirties?

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
7. Until he ran on a third-party ticket
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

in 2000, I actually liked Nader. I still respect his many accomplishments in the consumer protection area. We all owe him for those.

Bernie has nothing comparable to Nader's pre-2000 accomplishments, IMO. Still, I even liked Bernie until recently. It appears that the more one learns about him, the more one begins to like him less.

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