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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:19 AM Apr 2016

Dems are by far more united behind winning candidate now than in 2008

Now:

Benchmark Politics
?@benchmarkpol
The state of "Bernie or Bust"



In 2008:

Just how badly is the Democratic Party divided?

According to the exit polls, half of Clinton's supporters in Indiana would not vote for Obama in a general election match up with John McCain. A third of Clinton voters said they would pick McCain over Obama, while 17 percent said they would not vote at all. Just 48 percent of Clinton supporters said they would back Obama in November.

Obama gets even less support from Clinton backers in North Carolina. There, only 45 percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama over McCain. Thirty-eight percent said they would vote for McCain while 12 percent said they would not vote.


Obama voters appear to be more willing to support Clinton in November. In Indiana, 59 percent of Obama backers said they'd vote for Clinton, and 70 percent of Obama backers in North Carolina said they'd support the New York Democrat.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/


That's one example. There are more:

In March, Gallup had 28% of Clinton supporters voting for McCain instead of Obama. The same poll had 19% of Obama supporters who said they would vote for McCain over Hillary. By the time the primaries were over, CNN had 35% of Clinton supporters nationally saying they wouldn’t support Obama.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-bad-is-poll-that-says-25-of-bernie-sanders-fans-wont-vote-for-hillary/


Do keep this in mind as the media replays one of its favorites: "Just how badly is the Democratic Party divided?"

It's an old old tune, but they'll crank it up in keeping with their tedious habit of promoting the Both Sides Do It narrative. The splintered-beyond-all-recognition condition of the other party will make it irresistible to them.

Don't fall for it. There is no need to sweat Bernie or Bust. The revolution that began in 2008 with The Obama Coalition is alive and well. "Hillary's playing the woman card" is the new terrorist fist bump. "I beat 17 competent men. And a woman" is the new Reverand Wright gasp. "If she were a man she'd only get 5% of the vote" is the new 'he's only winning because he's Black'.

Beat back Republicans. The Petri dish of DU isn't and has never been representative of anything but a corner of the intertubes. -And even here there are tons of BS supporters who have expressed support for whoever wins -Boldly! considering the flack they get for that here.

The really loud voices of Hilz hate have lost. We are united and if anyone tries to tell you otherwise, don't fall for it. The Democratic Party is the first to have a woman candidate at the top of the ticket. She is on track to unite the party like never before.We will make history together.

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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
2. Like in 08 towards Obama, lots of the opposition to her is posturing
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

I was an Obama supporter and I remember it was nerve wracking worrying about the party coming together. Her concession speech about all the cracks in the glass ceiling was the point at which I promised myself to support her this time around.

Her supporters in 08 loved her. It was evident. I can't imagine the strength it took for her -and nearly ALL of them!- to pivot and sweep Obama into office so successfully. Much respect and gratitude will be owed now, as it was then, to those who place country so far ahead of themselves and their own personal wish lists.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. Those are very nice words for Hillary supporters from 2008,Rose. Thank you.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 and remember changing my DU avatar to Obama immediately after she quit. Her speech supporting Obama was pure class. I never looked back and think Obama is one of the greatest presidents I've ever had the pleasure of supporting.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
7. You rock, and BS is lucky. He only has to do half as much work as she did
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:53 AM
Apr 2016

because only half as many of his peeps are as singularly committed to him as you guys were to her in 08.


Cha

(297,187 posts)
4. It would take incredible strength to do what Hillary did and she has it. Now she has a secret
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

weapon for the fall campaign..


Keith Boykin ??@keithboykin
No matter where things stand right now, don't forget Hillary Clinton has a secret weapon for the fall campaign.
5:15 PM - 26 Apr 2016
236 236 Retweets 358 358 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/26/well-done-md-pa/#comments

I started liking her and respecting her at the Convention.. She was amazing!

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
5. I can't wait to see Obama and Hillary on the campaign
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

trail together. It's going to be awesome.


Cheers,Cha!

Cha

(297,187 posts)
6. I've been thinking that since April.. 2015 and now Keith Boykin has made it into this really
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

awesome Tweet!

Cheers to you, Su & Hillary

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. My grandmother was very upset when Hillary didn't get the nomination in 2008
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

She was disdainful of Obama throughout that primary campaign, and I think honestly did not feel ready for a black president. She vowed to sit the fall election race out.

But my other relatives reached out to her and gently began urging her to give Obama a chance, and to watch the debates with John McCain. After doing that, her opinions of Obama began to improve, she voted for him and even admitted to liking him.

My grandmother died in June 2010.

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