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Related: About this forumClosed primaries are hurting Bernie Sanders. But they're not why he's losing.
But just how much better would Bernie be doing if every state primary let independents vote? Luckily, Emory political scientist Alan Abramowitz agreed to run the numbers for us using a model he's built for Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball.
Controlling for other variables, Abramowitz found that closed primaries did penalize Sanders by roughly 4.7 points. (The flip side of this, naturally, is that Hillary Clinton does about 4.7 better in closed primaries than in open ones, according to Abramowitz.)
How Abramowitz calculated Bernie Sanders's closed primary penalty
So what does this mean for the Democratic primary?
MOre @ the link.. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11528764/closed-primaries-bernie-sanders
https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/29/chat-away-816/#comments
Jane Sanders is wrong A-gain..
Edward-Isaac Dovere
✔ ??@IsaacDovere
Jane Sanders thinks the Dem primary "would be very different" if independents could vote in it. This is true. Also wouldn't a Dem primary.
12:33 PM - 28 Apr 2016
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Question on The Obama Diary..
April 29, 2016 at 12:49 am
"Q to sanders inc. what made you run on a dem ticket? if the indies mattered to you sooooo much... "
https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/28/president-barack-obama-dont-give-away-your-power/
So BS and the surrogates can stop whining about this, right? Rofl
Oh, and why is sanders "losing"? Let me count the ways..
Donna NoShock ??@NoShock
Boom Shakalaka!!! #MDforHRC
6:47 AM - 26 Apr 2016
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https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/26/chat-away-814/
Hillary's Group!
applegrove
(118,676 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Bernie Sanders on Monday told NBCs Chuck Todd that he ran as a Democrat to get more media coverage.
During a town hall-style event in Columbus, Ohio, the independent Vermont senator said, In terms of media coverage, you have to run within the Democratic Party. He then took a dig at MNSBC, telling Todd, the network would not have me on his program if he ran as an independent.
Money also played a role in his decision to run as a Democrat, Sanders added.
I hope that cleared that question.
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)2naSalit
(86,636 posts)And he expected us to just roll over and adore him?
Sorry Bernie, not gonna happen.
Cha
(297,272 posts)SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)...but his Campaign manager, Tad Devine, helped create that system.
Cha
(297,272 posts)them to be held accountable for everything they tried to disingenuously push on the American People when this is over.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)his supporters had more than enough time to register to vote.
i personally don't feel sorry for independents. the parties are so different in their idealogy. you choose the one you feel comfortable with and you register with that party.
Cha
(297,272 posts)Mahalo, DesertFlower~
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Democrats prefer Hillary.
Cha
(297,272 posts)You are always right.
I wish!
Tommy~
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)to counter the prevailing BS narrative of "establishment" rigging against the Bern.
He's losing. Get over it.
Cha
(297,272 posts)The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
Koinos
(2,792 posts)... maybe he would have had better luck running as a Republican. He would have gotten media attention and even more support from independents. His anger at the "establishment," of which he has been a part for many years, would have offset some of his more unrealistic goals.
He doesn't seem to be as hostile to Republicans as he is to Democrats. He criticizes the Clintons and Obama more often than he criticizes Bush. He claims he can work with "the other side of the aisle," but he would like to replace sitting Democrats with more progressive candidates. One of his best friends in the Senate is Jim Inhofe: That I simply do not understand.
If he wishes to act like a Democrat, he has to stop attacking Democrats and start attacking Republicans. Otherwise, he looks like a Libertarian or a Naderite.
Cha
(297,272 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)Nah, his ego wouldn't allow him to do that.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)to lose and he's not taking it very well.
No worries.. he'd have made terrible potus.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)and then soon after that will probably like the Trump chapter to be over too!
AHhhhh!
Cha
(297,272 posts)soon enough.
And, all the crap he's said against Hillary will not be forgotten.
Cha
(297,272 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Simple and true!
Cha
(297,272 posts)the nominee..
The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
Mahalo, mcar~
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Lets face the facts, eh? Bernie is a LOSER anyway you look at it!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... they've been living in a fantasy world for so long, it's going to be difficult for them to face reality.
I guess the best we can do is to continue to point out the facts and hope that they catch on. Having said that, I'd like to take this opportunity to say once again: Bernie will NOT be the nominee. There will not be a contested convention. There will not be a brokered convention. Hillary will become our party's nominee on the first and only ballot.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Well, maybe the entrails of the wildebeast showed a bad omen.
Hey, Cha, may I steal that last graphic? "Not enough votes"
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Unfortunately for Bernie, Obama turned the economy around and the Great Depression he was counting on never happened. And once the TPP goes online things will really start to heat up which is why I suspect he ran against TPP.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and this!
great OP!
Cha
(297,272 posts)legacy and his pols have been strong over 50%.. not really helpful for sanders.
Can you imagine someone running on the Dem ticket and against the popular African American President? Well, that's what BS is doing.
I don't get what you're saying about the TPP? It's a good thing, afaic.. I trust the President on this.. he wanted it and I'm glad he got it. sanders has already gotten Pinocchios for fabricating about it.
I never trusted BS in the first place.. a shame so many did.
Thank you, ucr!
William769
(55,147 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)A reporter is pointing out that he's disenfranchising the millions of voters who've already voted for Hillary, by wanting to impose his will on the SDs
Cha
(297,272 posts)The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
A reporter is pointing out that he's disenfranchising the millions of voters who've already voted for Hillary, by wanting to impose his will on the SDs
Thank you!
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)He was NOT happy she was asking him those questions, and brushed her off.
Cha
(297,272 posts)gawd he's everywhere 24/fucking/7.. will he ever just go and **** ***!?!!!
Chris Jansing? Good on her.. that door is open!
Thank you!
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Cha
(297,272 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Guess what? ALL the candidates, no matter when they dropped were still on the ballot. He did not vote for ANY ONE of the 3 active Rs and in fact, had he thought of it, he would've voted for Fiorina just to make a point to the three nutjobs.