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Related: About this forumBernie’s Bad End...Paul Krugman
Bernies Bad EndMAY 2, 2016 6:44 AM
This is really depressing: Sanders claiming that there will be a contested convention, and suggesting that the nomination fight was rigged. Can someone tell Bernie that hes in the process of blowing his own chance for a positive legacy?
At this point its as if Sanders is determined to validate everything liberal skeptics have been saying all along about his unwillingness to face reality and all of it for, maybe, a few weeks of additional fundraising, at the expense of any future credibility and goodwill. Isnt there anyone who can tell him to stop before its too late?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/bernies-bad-end/
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)a contested convention.
RandySF
(58,835 posts)And you can someone sane talks to him on primary day. But you can also tell that Jane Sanders is the last person he talks to at night by his reversals on the following days.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)Ughhhhh!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Wow.. this is really helpful.. I hope it gets through to some BS fans.
Thank you, working!
stopbush
(24,396 posts)His words of wisdom will be twisted by the BSers to confirm Sanders' "us against the establishment" mantra.
Cha
(297,240 posts)as though no one can stop him.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)is being flushed down the drain with his delusional instance of flipping enough supers to win and calling every damn primary he lost to Hillary "rigged".
Not to mention he said it would be horrible to try to win via the supers early in the primary season! The man and his backers are massive hypocrites!
Cha
(297,240 posts)He's making sure his fans don't vote for Hillary in the GE.. why would they if they believed all she did was cheat?
This is on bernieFnsanders.
Bui, no worries.. Hillary has a secret weapon.. she doesn't need BS.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And you are right, she doesn't need fake democrats anyway.
Heck tons of republicans are planning to vote for Hillary if Herr Trump is the thug candidate and I see no way that he wont be.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)candidate threatening to do something that the Democratic Party Convention that hasn't seen done in ages!
Sanders needs a phone call quick and if he stays stubbornly stupid in his attempt to (as I've called it months ago) "gut the Democratic Party", someone needs to tell him that if he doesn't reverse course, he's gonna come out early and crush him.
Any Democrat - true Democrat, not the wishy-washy kind - who still supports this nincompoop should have their head examined. This man is hellbent on destroying the Democratic Party just because he's upset he's not winning. This is childish, boorish, immature, and self-destructive, and I'm really sick and tired of him. Really.
On a lighter note...Hi, Cha!
Cha
(297,240 posts)Keith Boykin ??@keithboykin
No matter where things stand right now, don't forget Hillary Clinton has a secret weapon for the fall campaign.
5:15 PM - 26 Apr 2016
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https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/26/well-done-md-pa/#comments
And you see Paul Krugman's .. "Bernie's bad end"? And, "Al Giordano has it trending on twitter"!
Pertinent Tweet..
The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
People are up in arms so the speak.. Hillary's getting lots of HELP! berni's screwing himself up.. all with his own mouth.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)I think she'll have some other surprises up her sleeve later.
I hope her coattails are long and strong.
Cha
(297,240 posts)And, Yes.. the coattails.. the Dem races across the country that's she been helping with her Fundraising that sanders is always whining about. One of the many on his whine list.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)skylucy
(3,739 posts)positive nature that I believed about Sanders is gone. I am thoroughly disgusted. I am also concerned that Sanders will continue to denigrate Hillary and the Democratic Party all the way until (and even during) the convention. I watched a clip of Hillary from 2008 conceding to and endorsing Obama. Despite being disappointed that she had been beaten by then-Senator Obama, she was unequivocal in her support for him and called on all Dems to back him. I fear that Sanders has no such loyalty to the party or any of us long-time, true Democrats. He wants to hurt the party,because after using it for his own ends, he has lost. It's like he wants all of us to suffer because he didn't win. I gave him far too much credit when he began his campaign. His words about doing whatever it takes to "make sure a Republican doesn't win the White House" are self serving lies at this point. Remember when his campaign workers stole Hillary's data when there was a breach in the system? And then his campaign whined and filed a lawsuit against the DNC because they had to wait one day before accessing the system again? I gave him the benefit of the doubt at that time. I shouldn't have.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)little legacy he had while pushing a generation of new voters away from the normal process, convincing them you only lost because the other side cheated.
Nice job, Sanders.
Cha
(297,240 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)and huge advances!
He has nothing to lose.
Only we do.
Cha
(297,240 posts)US Senate. It may not mean much to him now with all the rock star rallies he's held and the $$$$$$$ flowing like whine.. except in April when it went down almost $25 Million.
Maybe he's worried about campaign debts the way he's been spending without much to show for it?
but, he's going to be sorry he's claiming Hillary only won because everything is "rigged".. one of his gd favorite buzz words.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)isn't $27 right around the cost of a brand new hardback?
And that $27 would go in his bank account, not campaign account?
There just has to be a reason for burning it all down with no chance of winning the nomination.
"Millionaires and billionaires." If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
Too cynical? Too soon?
Cha
(297,240 posts)Not too cynical.. unless I am too. I mean we're speaking from months of experience!
Not too soon, either.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)supporting him.
With every passing day, he shows us why he would have been a horrible POTUS.
Cha
(297,240 posts)yeah, just what we needed .. the stump speech president.. I know President Obama is happy that Hillary is succeeding him.. he knows how competent she is.
question everything
(47,479 posts)You knew, or should have known, the rules of this race. Not to mention that you were not a Democrat, hated Democrats, campaigned against Democrats until you decided to take advantage of bright eyed youngsters.
Cary
(11,746 posts)They make the same mistakes over and over. They never learn.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)So right on!
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)I blame a combo of TMZ and Pinterest for the dissastisfaction of emoprogs.
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)EmoProg? Nice one. I've been calling them fan-boys and fan-girls, and I've gotten so sour that I found my old "politically immature," insult that I haven't used in years.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)BootinUp
(47,150 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Whether or not he rather see America destroyed than help beat trump and conservatives...Manu of his supporters want America to be destroyed...
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Since almost all of Bernie's rallies have been at or near a college campus, and the school year is ending now, his supporters will forget he even exists in about a month anyway. I find it so very odd that he chose to bring that crowd into his campaign before trying to get people that actually do vote in a general election.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)that he could still be considered to have run a successful campaign if he got exposure.
That's why he ran as a D and why he targeted college kids. The media exposure and the $ rolling in convinced him he could win. Now he's stuck in the fantasy.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And so are his rabid fans.
I said months ago if you are depending on 18 to 29 year old people exclusively, the revolution, to get you to the white house, you are an idiot!
Its a proven historical fact that this group votes the least of everybody!
But I was scolded and called a tool of the oligarchy because I looked at the historical record.
Got many many posts hidden/run off the board for saying such horrible "untrue" things. SMH
Cary
(11,746 posts)Don't sweat the hides. I got my last hide, on a thread I started in order to actually try to be reasonable and nice to them, for simply saying that I won't follow mopes and losers. Did I say they were mopes and losers? No, I specifically avoided any reference to anyone.
So I got hidden by them for saying that I won't follow mopes and losers. It's a bad thing to opt out of following mopes and losers.
We're better than that, or at least I try to be. It's funny because they berated me in that thread because of my transparency page and guess what? They were PPR'd because they themselves were banned and had multiple socks.
So don't let the flakes get to you. Chin up! All is well.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Same as the voting age facts.
A fact is a fact even if a person doesn't want it to be true!
Cary
(11,746 posts)No. Not really. And pretty much that's why I support Hillary. I think she's better, don't get me wrong. But both would work for me, and no Republican would be acceptable.
I'm still going with my opinion that we had two great candidates and I'm not taking my eyes off the prize, which is a Democratic victory. Republicans are unacceptable. They present Kasich as something sane and reasonable, but he's not sane and he's not reasonable. He's not moderate. He's not fit to govern and none of the Republicans are.
I mean look at their approval rating. Look at what they've managed to do with Senate and House majorities. Do I need to say more? They have nothing except the same old, very tired tax cuts for rich people and more wars. They are not fit to govern.
Now if that makes me a partisan hack then so be it. I cannot rationalize Republicans in any way, shape or form.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Satch59
(1,353 posts)Bernie is sounding more like Cruz (delusional) which is NOT good for him and not good the Democratic Party...we are so much better than this. The idea of Bernie not embracing a graceful exit speaks to his ego and true intentions... Yes, Hillary stayed through CA but never talked of contested convention or rigged super delegates and never made demands on the platform or to Obama.... Grace...a beautiful word...Hillary has it...Bernie doesn't.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,986 posts)He's about as popular as Cruz among his fellow congressional members. I think someone said, "I don't know anyone who's worked with Bernie Sanders but plenty of people have been lectured by him."
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Ithaca, NY 2 hours ago
Hard to understand this behavior. Sanders strikes me as someone who has run for president out of a desire to achieve a social and political agenda, rather than out of egotistical ambition. In that sense, he seems the absolute opposite of The Donald, who has no apparent political perspective or agenda, and for whom the only thing that matters is becoming president - it all about ego.
Sanders spent what - close to two decades? - in Congress without much display of ego. Now, having accomplished far more than anyone thought he could, it seems as though Sanders is feeling a bit full of himself and his ego has risen to the top. Too bad, he may blow all that he has managed to accomplish.
And:
Ossining, NY 1 hour ago
It makes one weep! I supported Bernie's positions, sent him money and voted for him in the primary to make a statement and to see if the democratic electorate could rally behind his grand positions. My goal was to show future democratic politicians that progressive values have currency and determine just how deep the support is.
Now this, an apparent demonstration that progressives reject compromise, a key feature in successful governance, and would rather loose big than make incremental progress. Why must they see any deviation from revealed truth as apostasy? It is clear the American electorate is not ready for Bernie, but wise politics at this point could have prepared the country to better deal with the powerful negative forces that loom.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Gothmog
(145,242 posts)sheshe2
(83,770 posts)A direct hit!
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)And there are very few people I expend the energy you need to hate.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)I have gone from respect to doubt, from doubt to disdain, from disdain to ridicule, and -- finally -- from ridicule to pity. I feel sorry for him, and it pains me to see what he has done to himself, to his followers, and to the Democratic party.
ETA: And it pains me that progressives flocked to Sanders and ignored O'Malley.
Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)But we can handle it.
Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)I would think that theoretically the DNC could have rejected his bid to run as a Democrat, since he wasn't one. But maybe there was nothing anyone could do. Unfortunately, does that mean that Libertarians and Greens and even Republicans should be allowed to run as Democrats in the future, if they wish to? Maybe it's time to look at and change some of the rules.
I don't like open primaries either.