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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:46 PM May 2016

Boston Globe: Bernie Sanders declares war on reality (HRC GP)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/05/02/bernie-sanders-declares-war-reality/68txAVboFpkpbLXarTH33O/story.html

Some excerpts:


By Michael A. Cohen MAY 03, 2016
Instead of coming to grips with the overwhelming evidence that Democratic primary voters prefer Hillary Clinton be the party’s 2016 presidential nominee, Bernie Sanders continues to create his own political reality — devising new and creative excuses to explain why he’s losing to her and why he should be the party’s standard-bearer in November.

First there was the complaint that Southern, conservative states have their primaries early, which “distorts reality,” because these states won’t support a Democrat in November. This is certainly a compelling assertion from a candidate who has won such red-state stalwarts as Utah, Alaska, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas, Idaho, and Wyoming.


Next the Sanders camp argued that the primary system is unfair because places like New York have a closed primary that doesn’t allow independents to vote. By this logic, it is undemocratic not to allow voters not registered as Democrats to vote in a Democratic primary tasked with choosing the Democratic nominee for president. If independents could vote, claims Sanders, it would be a different race (even though Clinton has actually won more open primaries than Sanders).

For Sanders, it seems, the only fair and equitable manner for choosing a Democratic nominee is one that favors him.

This brings us to the Sanders campaign’s latest “the dog ate my homework” excuse. In what was a bizarre press conference Sunday at the National Press Club in Washington, Sanders took aim at a new target — superdelegates.
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Boston Globe: Bernie Sanders declares war on reality (HRC GP) (Original Post) Her Sister May 2016 OP
They go on on the subject of Superdelegates Her Sister May 2016 #1
Bernie's losing so its "rigged" workinclasszero May 2016 #2
That's a given Iliyah May 2016 #3
Not a great way to go down in history, is it? displacedtexan May 2016 #4
Conclusion: Her Sister May 2016 #5
You beat me to it! Koinos May 2016 #11
And they haven't even touched on him personally jmowreader May 2016 #14
This is pretty much the universal response to Sanders' cray cray SD scheme. SunSeeker May 2016 #6
Great article! Thanks. Koinos May 2016 #7
wow! I posted the same snippet above! lol! Her Sister May 2016 #9
Yep, you were first. What a great conclusion! Koinos May 2016 #13
Obvious to everyone not blinded by Sanders mania. stopbush May 2016 #8
That last paragraph! Yikes! displacedtexan May 2016 #10
Bernie is near "old man yelling at cloud" territory. CrowCityDem May 2016 #12
Exactly. Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #16
It appears the bloom is off that rose ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #15
Sanders' behavior... wysi May 2016 #17
Delusional mcar May 2016 #18
It takes a lot of emotional energy to maintain a delusion that size. Koinos May 2016 #19
It's going to get even uglier, I fear mcar May 2016 #20
I fear that Bernie may collapse from exhaustion. Koinos May 2016 #21
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.. California needs to read this.. Mahalo, Sistah! Cha May 2016 #22
Great title! sarae May 2016 #23
Acid flashback? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #24
Certainly not internally consistent anyway. ismnotwasm May 2016 #25
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Bernie's losing so its "rigged"
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

Any scenario that says hes losing = its rigged.

He pissing his rep right down the drain.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
4. Not a great way to go down in history, is it?
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

To be known as the guy who demanded that Democrats allow non-Democrats to choose their presidential nominee?

Sad.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. Conclusion:
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016
In head-to-head general election polls, Clinton trounces Trump, but since Sanders trounces him by a bit more, he argues that he should be the nominee.

In the realm of illogical, self-serving, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest political arguments, this is practically the gold standard. But with six weeks to go until the last primary, I have great confidence that the Sanders campaign will find some way to top it.



https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/05/02/bernie-sanders-declares-war-reality/68txAVboFpkpbLXarTH33O/story.html

WOW!


HRC #45

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
11. You beat me to it!
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

Isn't that a great quote?

The Mad Hatter candidate twists logic every which way. Yet his followers follow him into Wonderland.

What a drink! Kool-Aid that dissolves reason, logic, civility, and common sense.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. And they haven't even touched on him personally
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

The voters not being able to do math troubles me...does he intend to turn every business in America into a nonprofit?

SunSeeker

(51,555 posts)
6. This is pretty much the universal response to Sanders' cray cray SD scheme.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

The only people who genuinely think Sanders' superdelegate flipping scheme is rational are true believers hopped up on unicorn farts.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
7. Great article! Thanks.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

And the last paragraph, regarding Bernie's argument that Clinton superdelegates should vote for him:

In the realm of illogical, self-serving, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest political arguments, this is practically the gold standard. But with six weeks to go until the last primary, I have great confidence that the Sanders campaign will find some way to top it.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
13. Yep, you were first. What a great conclusion!
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:03 PM
May 2016

This Sanders campaign has me so dizzy, I can't tell east from west or up from down anymore.

If Sanders told his followers to jump off a bridge, would they do it?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
10. That last paragraph! Yikes!
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016
In the realm of illogical, self-serving, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest political arguments, this is practically the gold standard. But with six weeks to go until the last primary, I have great confidence that the Sanders campaign will find some way to top it.


Reminds me of that familiar voiceover: "Stay tuned for scenes from next week's show."
 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
15. It appears the bloom is off that rose ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:09 PM
May 2016

revolution indeed.

At this rate, he won't be allowed anywhere near the stage at the convention. And while the trickle-down effect doesn't work economically, it certainly works with whining.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
19. It takes a lot of emotional energy to maintain a delusion that size.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

Reality will have the last word, and when it does...

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
21. I fear that Bernie may collapse from exhaustion.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

People who love him should pull him back from the abyss.

He is not right in the head right now.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
22. Now that's what I'm talkin' about.. California needs to read this.. Mahalo, Sistah!
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 3, 2016, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

By Michael A. Cohen MAY 03, 2016
Instead of coming to grips with the overwhelming evidence that Democratic primary voters prefer Hillary Clinton be the party’s 2016 presidential nominee, Bernie Sanders continues to create his own political reality — devising new and creative excuses to explain why he’s losing to her and why he should be the party’s standard-bearer in November.

First there was the complaint that Southern, conservative states have their primaries early, which “distorts reality,” because these states won’t support a Democrat in November. This is certainly a compelling assertion from a candidate who has won such red-state stalwarts as Utah, Alaska, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas, Idaho, and Wyoming.

For Sanders, it seems, the only fair and equitable manner for choosing a Democratic nominee is one that favors him.

This brings us to the Sanders campaign’s latest “the dog ate my homework” excuse. In what was a bizarre press conference Sunday at the National Press Club in Washington, Sanders took aim at a new target — superdelegates.


Sanders’ third argument, however, is the real doozy, because to buy it you basically have to ignore everything else he has said about the unfairness of the primary system. According to Sanders, superdelegates shouldn’t actually be guided by the will of the people. They should be guided by who can win in November. Surprisingly enough, Sanders thinks that he would be that person.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/05/02/bernie-sanders-declares-war-reality/68txAVboFpkpbLXarTH33O/story.html


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