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anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:40 AM May 2016

Two good things for Hillary that came out of tonight...

First, with all the news on the repub side, the fact that Sanders won a few more delegates is totally being ignored. All the political news on my Facebook feed, for instance is about Trump being the nominee. This should minimize the usual bounce he might have received from 'winning'.

Second, the more stubborn and difficult BS becomes, the more ill will he creates among party establishment. I think there is a sweet spot for the leverage he hopes to attain by staying in the race, and he is soon going to start sliding downhill. Before long, he won't even be invited to speak at the convention. You can hear the pundits starting to get worked up about BS staying in a race where he has no chance. Give it a few more days, and they will become anxious to start the GE hype, and either show outright anger at him, or just ignore him and start covering the Hillary v. Trump contest.

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Cha

(297,160 posts)
2. Yeah, i don't think cruz dropping out helped BS' attempt to anoint himself and
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:56 AM
May 2016

subvert the Will of the People @ all!

Propane Jane ?@docrocktex26 · 55m55 minutes ago

The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.

https://twitter.com/theonlyadult

applegrove

(118,629 posts)
3. Boy you really know how to win sorely. Bernie is a part of the Democratic Party
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:10 AM
May 2016

forever and his ideas are too. You sure you are not a paid GOP troll? Check okay?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
4. Disagree. BS is not "a part of the Democratic Party forever". If you don't believe me, check his..
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:38 AM
May 2016

filing for re-election to his VT Senate seat.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
8. You can look back, I worked to hard to hold my tongue
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:51 PM
May 2016

for months... But seeing how obstinant Sanders and his supporters are has made me not care anymore. I doubt any of the burners will vote for Hillary anyway. So it's time to get out there and get as many other people who do not want Trump as possible. BS was always about himself and never really cared about the Democratic Party. He knew darn well that by promising college students free tuition, he would get a devoted following. He never had a plan to implement it, because such a plan requires extreme cooperation from both sides of the political aisle which is just not practical. It was all about building his own brand.

BlueMTexpat

(15,367 posts)
5. I believe that Bernie already hit the
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:54 AM
May 2016

sweet spot when he said outright that he wants a contested convention - just another indication of how he wants special rules to apply to him alone and be damned to the will of the voters.

The downhill slide began then, IMO. How far down he will slide will depend entirely on his own behavior from now on.

Cha

(297,160 posts)
7. I read in one of those articles explaining why BS has no clue what he's talking about
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:50 AM
May 2016

that he's mixing up "contested" with "brokered".. that it would be impossible to have a contested convention or brokered.

Heha... I found it!

Sorry, Bernie, but you can’t “contest” the Democratic Convention. Those aren’t the rules.

First things first; Sanders seems to think that because Hillary Clinton will not have the “magic number” in pledged delegates alone, that this makes the July DNC “contested.” This shows an amazing lack of knowledge of the process. The correct term Sanders should be using is “brokered”, however terminology aside, it still will not apply to the convention. A convention becomes brokered only if a candidate fails to secure a majority of overall delegates after the first ballot, this includes ALL delegates including the super delegates. Sanders appears to be operating under the misguided idea that the first ballot is pledged delegates only and that therefore Secretary Clinton will not have the required majority. However, as the first ballot will include all delegates, Secretary Clinton will have a majority and there will be nothing to “contest” or broker.

And, one who would not be dealing in facts.

The contradiction between these two strategies by the Sanders campaign is disturbing and exposes a new level of hypocrisy. In his first argument, Sanders says that the super delegates should vote based on popular vote from their state, but in the second argument he is saying they should ignore the will of the people and vote for him because he is polling slightly better. He is, in effect saying he wants to steal the nomination not just from Secretary Clinton, but from the members of the democratic party who have given her a decisive victory.

Regardless of Sanders strategies, back-up plans and other machinations, there will not be a brokered convention and Senator Sanders will not be the nominee. He may spend the next two months pretending otherwise, but the democratic nomination process is over for everyone but Sanders and his most confused supporters.

sanders may or may not be "misguided".. either way he's trying to dupe the American People and we've already had too many Presidents like that.. No Thank you, BS.

Yo Mama~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=122726

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/sorry-bernie-but-you-cant-contest-the-democratic-convention-those-arent-the-rules/24652/

The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. While Sanders won Indiana it was only a few delegates more and sure did nit level his incline.
Wed May 4, 2016, 05:36 AM
May 2016

Hillary is only 168 delegates away from the required number.

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