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brer cat

(24,544 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:08 AM May 2016

Four More Pinocchios for Team Bernie

The Sanders campaign’s phony math on superdelegates

“During the course of 2008, over 120 superdelegates switched their quote-unquote allegiance in that process. In fact, there is a lot of movement of superdelegates in these contests.”

–Jeff Weaver, Sanders campaign manager, in an interview on MSNBC, May 2, 2016

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On the Sanders list, one major oddity is that it includes 23 members of the New York congressional delegation. These lawmakers were among Clinton’s earliest and strongest supporters in 2008, and they adamantly refused to switch as long as she remained in the race. But on June 8, one day after Clinton dropped out, the entire New York congressional delegation collectively endorsed Obama.

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In a news article on Clinton releasing her delegates, then-New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine is quoted as saying the New Jersey delegation privately decided to switch to Obama in light of her decision to release her delegates. There are nine members of the New Jersey congressional delegation on the Sanders list—including Corzine.

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But it’s highly misleading to count delegates who switched after Clinton dropped out of the race — and she began to urge party unity behind Obama. Weaver earns Four Pinocchios.
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Four More Pinocchios for Team Bernie (Original Post) brer cat May 2016 OP
Heck of a job, Weaver. Koinos May 2016 #1
Lovely pic they of have him earning even more Pinocchios, brer.. one thing about this Cha May 2016 #2
It is priceless, Cha. brer cat May 2016 #3
G'Day, brer~ Cha May 2016 #4
Charles Rangell Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #7
I had read that.. It's No wonder he only has a few endorsements from Congress. They Cha May 2016 #8
Have they been honest about anything lately? n/t Lucinda May 2016 #5
Maybe it's Bernie math again? Koinos May 2016 #9
BONUS! Cha May 2016 #6
K&R! DemonGoddess May 2016 #10
Four Pinocchios Her Sister May 2016 #11
I don't see a Barack Obama in these primaries, Hillary also dropped out of thr Thinkingabout May 2016 #12
Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing Gothmog May 2016 #13
Sad thing is they believe and are throwing their hard earned money away. Cha May 2016 #15
Weaver will say anything. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #14
"Desperate times call for desperate measures" George II May 2016 #16
Can we get a "Rip Van Winkle" award for the press Pathwalker May 2016 #17
K&R! fleabiscuit May 2016 #18

Cha

(297,031 posts)
2. Lovely pic they of have him earning even more Pinocchios, brer.. one thing about this
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:32 AM
May 2016

I finally learned how to spell Pinocchio!

And, they're calling out berny big time!



Always be "suspicious" of the sanders campaign.. they earn their Pinocchios the easy way..

The Sanders campaign provided a list of 116 superdelegates that it said had switched from Clinton to Obama. The list did not include the date that a superdelegate switched, which made us instantly suspicious. (The list is embedded below.)

Clinton dropped out of the race on June 7, when she gave her “18 million cracks” speech. By any reasonable calculation, switches by superdelegates after she conceded the race shouldn’t count.

Yeah!

“Dammit to hell we fight,” explained Rep. Charles Rangel. “When it’s over, we come together and go out there to win.”

So Rangel and the New York delegation considered the race to be “over,” but the Sanders campaign includes him and the rest of the delegation on a list of switchers.


the sanders campaign thinks they're so slippery and all they are sleazy.

This list shows 29 people switched from Clinton to Obama, though one later switched back to Clinton. That’s a total of 28. Some of these switches were undoubtedly noteworthy and symbolic, such as the announcement by civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis of Georgia on Feb. 14. But 18, including former vice president Walter Mondale, switched after the last primaries in South Dakota and Montana—and the same week Clinton dropped out. So it’s really just 10 people during the primary season.

So BSco pumped up 10 to 116.. thinking no one would notice.. see "sleaze"!



Mahalo brer.. this is Priceless!



Cha

(297,031 posts)
4. G'Day, brer~
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:47 AM
May 2016

sanders does nothing but insult the intelligence of his fans.

The rest of us have been on to berny and don't even care enough to be insulted.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,858 posts)
7. Charles Rangell
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:18 AM
May 2016

The one who said, "I don't know anyone who's worked with Bernie Sanders. I know plenty who have been lectured by him."

Cha

(297,031 posts)
8. I had read that.. It's No wonder he only has a few endorsements from Congress. They
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:27 AM
May 2016

know what a lousy potus he'd make.

Cha

(297,031 posts)
6. BONUS!
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:55 AM
May 2016


...But it includes New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who had never backed Clinton. He had sought the nomination and then later endorsed Obama.

Moreover, it’s important to recall that the gap between Obama and Clinton in superdelegates in 2008 was never as wide as the gap between Clinton and Sanders now.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
11. Four Pinocchios
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:47 AM
May 2016
Weaver cast the 120 figure as happening “in the course of 2008” and said it demonstrated “a lot of movement” in allegiance to the two candidates. But the record shows the opposite. Just 10 people switched from Clinton to Obama before the last primary votes were cast. The number grows to 28 if you include people who switched just before Clinton dropped out on June 7.

But it’s highly misleading to count delegates who switched after Clinton dropped out of the race — and she began to urge party unity behind Obama. Weaver earns Four Pinocchios.



They are really counting on people being uninformed!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. I don't see a Barack Obama in these primaries, Hillary also dropped out of thr
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:10 AM
May 2016

Primary in June, got behind Obama before the convention, released her delegates to Obama and nominated him on the floor. When is Weaver going to tell that one?

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
17. Can we get a "Rip Van Winkle" award for the press
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

for when they don't push back against these lies by the Sanders campaign? I do believe they earn such an "award".

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