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stopbush

(24,395 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:06 AM May 2016

I'm happy that Team Clinton Is Ignoring Sanders

No more enabling that loser. He doesn't even need her to go on as long as he has his ever-shrinking echo chamber urging him on to even more defeats.

We're in full GE mode now. Swatting gnats is a waste of time and resources.

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I'm happy that Team Clinton Is Ignoring Sanders (Original Post) stopbush May 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #1
He and all his surrogates and supporters have no leverage! Her Sister May 2016 #2
I know! Hillary is moving on because she knows what's important and sanders Cha May 2016 #3
100% agree. She and her team know exactly what they're doing. The Bern is rightfully being Surya Gayatri May 2016 #4
The media is finally doing its job and questioning Sanders' version stopbush May 2016 #8
As long as this continues Hillary won't have to run a single ad in remaining primaries pandr32 May 2016 #9
Focus on the GE. Iliyah May 2016 #5
She will win enough delegates in the remaining states without spooky3 May 2016 #6
I love it! pandr32 May 2016 #10
trump is the teabagger nominee and he's ready to blast Hillary more so she has to focus Cha May 2016 #12
I say skip the GE and get ready for the OO GusBob May 2016 #7
Complacency = Defeat markbark May 2016 #14
Thank you for your reply Happy Cinco De Mayo. Here's the GOP Hispanic breakdown GusBob May 2016 #15
Thanks for those numbers. And I agreed the Sanders campaign made a huge mistake ignoring . . . brush May 2016 #28
Vote Blue No Matter Who! charlyvi May 2016 #21
With all due credit to Sander's. Firebrand Gary May 2016 #11
That's good news. spooky3 May 2016 #13
Of course, earlier in the week he accused her of money laundering. stopbush May 2016 #24
We all need to take their lead...if we stop engaging the angry BSers, they will only have themselves eastwestdem May 2016 #16
Exactly. Allow the cancer to consume itself. Stay out of the path of the disease stopbush May 2016 #18
Truer words were never spoken... nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #20
Frankly, I hope that she continues BlueMTexpat May 2016 #17
The problem is that the longer Sanders stays in it, the longer the media can play their stopbush May 2016 #19
I see that downside. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #23
Sanders does NOT need to keep running for people to have the chance to vote for him. stopbush May 2016 #25
K&R! DemonGoddess May 2016 #22
I wouldnt say ignoring MFM008 May 2016 #26
Though it would be entertaining to hear him inform Californians that stopbush May 2016 #27
Except you know that isn't what he is going to do. He would go for the Hail Mary, and spew R/W still_one May 2016 #30
There is no point to it. Each side knows exactly who they are going to vote for by now, and a still_one May 2016 #29
At this point I don't blame them Legends303 May 2016 #31
Yep. A 50-50 delegate split in CA puts Hillary almost stopbush May 2016 #32

Cha

(297,119 posts)
3. I know! Hillary is moving on because she knows what's important and sanders
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

is over there in the corner flailing, finger wagging, and whining about Hillary.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. 100% agree. She and her team know exactly what they're doing. The Bern is rightfully being
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:24 AM
May 2016

marginalized and ignored.

Who cares how many more times he repeats his redundant stump speech and dramatically throws his "Wall Street speeches" from the podium.

Nobody is listening anymore. The media and public are moving on.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
8. The media is finally doing its job and questioning Sanders' version
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

of reality. They're not letting his surrogates off easy.

Soon, the TV appearances will dry up, as will coverage of Sanders' rallies. But he'll keep going because it's all about him. Always has been, always will be.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
9. As long as this continues Hillary won't have to run a single ad in remaining primaries
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

Thankfully, it seems the more interesting horse race for the media, at this point, is the misogynist Trump and the first woman nominee Hillary Clinton.

spooky3

(34,429 posts)
6. She will win enough delegates in the remaining states without
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016

Further campaigning, to clinch the nomination. So it's very smart for her to focus on the general.

Cha

(297,119 posts)
12. trump is the teabagger nominee and he's ready to blast Hillary more so she has to focus
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

on him.. she doesn't have time for whiny berny .. he's irrelevant.

markbark

(1,559 posts)
14. Complacency = Defeat
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Remember when the primaries were "just a formality?"
Do not underestimate (or is that "misunderestimate?) the stupidity of the American public.
This is the same group that elected Dubya -- TWICE.

We need to keep fighting HARD until November.

(I'm a Bernie supporter but am firmly in the #voteBlueNoMatterWhat camp )

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
15. Thank you for your reply Happy Cinco De Mayo. Here's the GOP Hispanic breakdown
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

Bush 04 ......44% of the Hispanic vote
Bush 08........31% of the Hispanic vote
Romney 12.....27%
Source washPost

Trump will get lucky to get 11%. The blowback will be fierce against him Hispanics whom never voted for will rise against him.

Bush won due to the Hispanic vote. Trump has no chance. None.

The revolution is multiracial my friend. Sanders biggest mistake was writing off minorities.

Madam President it is. Let's all get ready

brush

(53,764 posts)
28. Thanks for those numbers. And I agreed the Sanders campaign made a huge mistake ignoring . . .
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

minorities.

When you think about it, it was bound to happen as the top people in his camp are from Vermont too where there are hardly any minorities so their focus until it was too late was on white voter, the people they were used to dealing with.

It's like they joined the Democratic Party and didn't realize that a big part of the Dem constituency are African Americans, Latino Americans, Asian Americans and Native Americans and they had no idea how to reach us.

WTF? Heads should have rolled in the Sanders camp because of malpractice by some top honchos.

No one can win the Dem nomination without a significant support from POCs.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
11. With all due credit to Sander's.
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

Yesterday at his rally he did not mention her name once, he went after Donald. I'm relieved that he's taking a pivot as well, he's making it easier to begin unifying the party.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
24. Of course, earlier in the week he accused her of money laundering.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

Sanders is a shit who really shouldn't be given credit for the few instances where he doesn't trash Hillary. He more than makes up for it on a regular basis.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
16. We all need to take their lead...if we stop engaging the angry BSers, they will only have themselves
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

to continually reinforce their paranoid theories. The more they talk to each other, the more delusional their speculation becomes.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
17. Frankly, I hope that she continues
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

campaigning hard in all states where primaries/caucuses have not yet taken place. So I am happy that Bernie stays in for awhile, just so long as he and his surrogates quit parroting RW GOPer attacks about her.

Campaigning now will also pay off for her in the GE.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
19. The problem is that the longer Sanders stays in it, the longer the media can play their
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

"Ds in disarray" card.

For all the bluster, the Rs WILL unite behind Trump. And Trump will actually run to the LEFT of Hillary on some issues. All of the racist crap he's been spouting will be discarded as empty campaign rhetoric/things I had to say to get the nomination/move along, nothing to see here.

The last thing the Ds need is to have a media narrative saying that our party has an internal battle going on while at the same time ignoring the real divisions in the R party and talking about how quickly they united behind Trump...who - now that he's dropped the rhetoric - is suddenly looking "very presidential."

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
23. I see that downside.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:38 PM
May 2016

But the media will create dissension even where none exists. That's just what they do. They have to give some semblance of working for the big bucks.

The Dems and Hillary will survive. So much of the groundwork that actually goes on in a campaign never gets talked about and Hillary's getting her GE team in place under the radar. Whatever happens in Bernie's campaign and the media from now to June, they will be getting their GE strategy together already because the primary season is effectively over for the Dem Presidential contest.

Where I really will get thoroughly pissed with Bernie is if he does not concede after the June primaries. But through the scheduled primaries, he may even help with overall primary voter turnout. That is always a good thing. There are other candidates on the ballot (Senate, Reps, Governors) and we want voters to turn out and vote for them as well.

It is important for Hillary to travel to and campaign in all states where there have not yet been primaries. Even if the Dem primaries are essentially decided, EVERY Dem voter deserves the chance to vote for the primary candidate of their choice.

Having Bernie still in the equation provides that opportunity. The more voters see Hillary in person, the less inclined they are to believe the lies about her and the more people see of Bernie, the more disinclined they are to see him as the "Messiah" he was purported to be by the True Believers. So they will feel much better about supporting her enthusiastically in the GE. Plus, those state operatives that help Hillary in the primaries can segue very easily into GE mode. It's about building up the state networks, which will not only help Hillary in the GE, but also help for the down-ticket races.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
25. Sanders does NOT need to keep running for people to have the chance to vote for him.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

His name will be on all the ballots. That's already been paid for. I don't think they give out refunds. It's too late to get on any ballots you're not on.

So that's a spurious argument. Sanders doesn't need to be actively campaigning for people to have the opportunity to vote for him, just as Rs still have the opportunity to vote for Ted Cruz if they want.

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
26. I wouldnt say ignoring
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:58 PM
May 2016

I would say changing her FOCUS.
I hope she doesn't even think about debating him again in California.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
30. Except you know that isn't what he is going to do. He would go for the Hail Mary, and spew R/W
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

talking points against Hillary, and while Hillary wouldn't have any problems dealing with it, the media will provide its circus like atmosphere to propagate those R/W talking points.

Like Chuck Todd comes to mind

still_one

(92,116 posts)
29. There is no point to it. Each side knows exactly who they are going to vote for by now, and a
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

primary debate will not change that

 

Legends303

(481 posts)
31. At this point I don't blame them
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:14 AM
May 2016

All she needs to do at this point is win California to blow him out of the water. Sanders is ill prepared anyway since he will be spending most of his resources in the primary. Hillary is doing the smart move of already focusing on the general.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
32. Yep. A 50-50 delegate split in CA puts Hillary almost
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

100 delegates over the needed 2383. And that's using today's delegate count. By the time we get to CA she'll be within 100 delegates of 2383.

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