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DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:25 PM May 2016

does anyone think trump wants to lose?

i wonder if he thought he would get this far. his remarks from the time he announced were outrageous and kept getting worse.

as far as the party members who are supporting him when does the question come up "which is more important the country or the party"?

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does anyone think trump wants to lose? (Original Post) DesertFlower May 2016 OP
I have been saying that for a long time. His ill-informed, racist, homophobic, sexist base just won Jitter65 May 2016 #1
I think Trump is too narcissistic to believe he could ever lose radical noodle May 2016 #2
I think he got in for publicity and laughs. His racism, hatred, and warmongering caught on Hoyt May 2016 #3
He seems to have picked up some of the old Dixiecrat bunch, hates all Thinkingabout May 2016 #4
I honestly believe this is Trump raising a middle finger to the "elite" Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #5
The 'slight' he endured was Obama ripping him a new one at the 2014 Correspondents' Dinner. MADem May 2016 #6
i remember that. DesertFlower May 2016 #9
I think the birtherism is just part of his Pied Piper shtick Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #16
A very "nouveau riche" and "arriviste" mentality. In spite of his billions and Surya Gayatri May 2016 #18
I have no idea Cary May 2016 #7
that's what i want too. and i DesertFlower May 2016 #8
I think he is mentally ill... redstatebluegirl May 2016 #10
so do i. DesertFlower May 2016 #11
No. NastyRiffraff May 2016 #12
Agreed! CajunBlazer May 2016 #13
Right on! n/t Stand and Fight May 2016 #17
That birther POS Trump is gonna burn the republican party down to the ground! workinclasszero May 2016 #14
Yup. I do. nt lamp_shade May 2016 #15
I think that he wants to be elected president, at this point. I'm not sure he wants actually... Princess Turandot May 2016 #19
Trump thinks he's the smartest guy around SharonClark May 2016 #20
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
1. I have been saying that for a long time. His ill-informed, racist, homophobic, sexist base just won
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

let him lose. He just has to find a way to really offend them. But he loves the adulation so it's hard for him. Poor guy.

radical noodle

(7,996 posts)
2. I think Trump is too narcissistic to believe he could ever lose
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:31 PM
May 2016

to anyone, let alone a woman. He's always been able to get away with saying and doing whatever he wanted. Why stop now?

The thought did cross my mind once, but I just can't imagine he wants to lose. More like he'd win and then try to sell the country for a profit.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I think he got in for publicity and laughs. His racism, hatred, and warmongering caught on
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

big. Now, here we are. I don't think he is driven by winning. It's just another big game hunt for him. But yahoos - and white wingers afraid of losing their majority and privilege --could put him in office.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. He seems to have picked up some of the old Dixiecrat bunch, hates all
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:36 PM
May 2016

They do not consider as whites, wants bigger and better guns, wants to start fights, angry old men who does not want to give up control.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
5. I honestly believe this is Trump raising a middle finger to the "elite"
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

I think some sort of slight occurred that so offended Trump that he decided he was going prove to those that offended him and never afforded him (or his father) the respect and legitimacy that he feels they were entitled to that he could burn the political and economic elite of this country to the ground just because it amuses him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. The 'slight' he endured was Obama ripping him a new one at the 2014 Correspondents' Dinner.
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

You could see the steam coming out of his ears.


Obama was responsible for this:



Here are the bits he did:




For those who have forgotten, Trump was a Big Time Birther.


LOL @ "And where WERE Biggie and Tupac?" and "You fired Gary Busey...these are the kinds of decisions that would keep me up at night!"
 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
16. I think the birtherism is just part of his Pied Piper shtick
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:42 AM
May 2016

I suspect this goes back years, probably to whenever Trump began branding himself as a schizophrenic right-wing demagogue, but it was long before that dinner.

I don't think Trump is insane or really believes anything that comes out of his own mouth, I do however think he is a vindictive egomaniac out to make a point or settle a score that is opaque to just about everyone outside of whatever golf clubhouse where the original "fuck me?, no fuck you!" exchange originally occurred.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. A very "nouveau riche" and "arriviste" mentality. In spite of his billions and
Tue May 10, 2016, 04:53 AM
May 2016

his lavish life-style, he's never been one of the old-money insiders with venerable laurels to rest upon.

And, he'll never be in the same league as the enviable and newly-ascendant techie class. Not enough smarts.

He's just a kid whose father made good and left him a bundle. He took that bundle and went broke with it several times, while leveraging his chutzpah and big mouth into big deals.

In his lizard brain, he chaffs under the suspicion that he's NEVER been accorded the RESPECT he's due. So, he decided to buy himself the Presidency to get himself some.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
7. I have no idea
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:52 PM
May 2016

I want to see him get his ass kicked and I want to see Republican heads spin.

Is that too much to ask for?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
12. No.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:32 AM
May 2016

He has a gargantuan ego. I think at first he did it as a kind one finger salute to the American people, but he's come further than he had thought; he'd underestimated the stupidity of the Republican bottom feeders. He keeps doubling down with his vulgarity because he can. He said it himself: he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and people would still support him.

I look forward to his humiliating defeat by Hillary Clinton.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
13. Agreed!
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:50 AM
May 2016

He is so full of himself that he believes that he can become President without doing his homework, without setting out defined policies, without preparing for debates. He truly believes he can insult his way into the White House. And guess what, it worked for him in the Republican primaries which added to his false self confidence.

Based on the fact that he knocked off 16 other Republican candidates one by one makes people wonder if he can do it again with Clinton. Well guess what, the general electorate is far different than the Republican Primary electorate and his opponent is not like any he has faced thus far.

Currently Trump is far behind where Romney was at this point 4 years ago against President Obama in polls among Republicans, Independents and Democrats. He also has a 26 point deficit to make up among the biggest voting block in the November election - women, and much more than than that among two other large voting block, Hispanics and single women. he is even behind Hillary among married women, a traditional Republican strong point and he is viewed unfavorably by 64% of the entire voting population.

he has to greatly reduce his negatives, heal the serious rifts in the Republican Party (which in my opinion is unlikely) and attract the majority of woman to his campaign (even more unlikely) in order to have any chance of winning and he is not off to a good start.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. That birther POS Trump is gonna burn the republican party down to the ground!
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:29 AM
May 2016

And Hillary is going to whip his ass in the GE!

Princess Turandot

(4,785 posts)
19. I think that he wants to be elected president, at this point. I'm not sure he wants actually...
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:41 AM
May 2016

to *be* president.

While I don't believe that he can win, I've wondered if a 'quick resignation' (6 months? A year?) is something that he's dangling out to potential VPs for his ticket. It's about the only reason that I can think of for Christie to agree to follow him around like a lapdog.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
20. Trump thinks he's the smartest guy around
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:08 AM
May 2016

Why would he not want to be president? He thinks the world would be his to rule, all the woman would want him and all the men would envy him. What a delusional short fingered vulgarian.

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