Another Way White Men Are Ruining It for the Rest of Us

[BlueMTexpat]

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/05/white-men-trump-clinton.html?mid=facebook_nymag

A Quinnipiac University swing-state poll has revealed that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are virtually neck and neck in the key states of Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The reason? Clinton's "historic weakness among white men." See, they'd rather vote for a dangerous xenophobic narcissist than (ew) a woman.

"This election may be good for divorce lawyers," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll. "The gender gap is massive and currently benefits Trump."

Another revealing result of the poll: Voters say Trump would do a better job handling the economy and terrorism, even though voters in all three states think Clinton is more intelligent than Trump by a wide margin. Hmmm, funny how that works.

Thank heavens for AAs, Latinos, and ... women, along with all white males who are not men-babies!

[leftofcool]

1. Trump now has 2 demographics. Angry white males and some Bernie supporters

[BlueMTexpat]

2. Much of the latter demographic is

also composed of the former, IMO.

[Her Sister]

6. Yes imagine 3 circles: White Racists, Trump supporters and BS Supporters

Imagine how much they would have in common! eh!

[BlueMTexpat]

8. Lots of Venn overlaps

indeed!

[Surya Gayatri]

9. The most compact venn diagram in polling history! LOL!

[Haveadream]

19. Bwahahahaha

[BlueMTexpat]

25. !!!

[jmowreader]

14. Does the word "concentric" mean anything to you?

[yallerdawg]

3. "Another Way White Men Are Ruining It for the Rest of Us"

Doesn't that pretty much describe American history?

[BlueMTexpat]

4. There were bad ones, yes.

But there were - and are - also good ones.

But I do take your point.

I've just finished watching "The Hunting Ground," the CNN version of the 2015 documentary film about campus rape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_Ground

It recently came up as a Netflix selection in Europe and I had never seen it before. So this headline resonated a LOT with me.

This really is a world where white men's rules dominate, in case anyone ever doubted. It's LONG past time for a change when we have a women as intelligent and talented as Hillary.

[Surya Gayatri]

10. "It's LONG past time for a change when we have a women as intelligent and talented as Hillary."

A-friggin'-men!

[yallerdawg]

30. FYI y'all - I'm a white man who lives in Alabama. LOL!

Michael Moore!

[BlueMTexpat]

31. There you go to prove my

point!



And I love Mark Fiore's work!

[Aristus]

5. Not a man-baby.

Totally voting for HRC!

[BlueMTexpat]

7. We HRC women LOVE

our men!!!

I'm also mother to four NOT men-babies, grandmother to six more (two are still pre-teen but well on their way to growing up) and great-grandmom to two little guys who will become good men because they have wonderful role models in their lives!

[Aristus]

11. Excellent!

[SharonClark]

34. Sounds like you have a wonderful family

The men in my immediate family are excellent as well.

[BlueMTexpat]

35. !!!

Like attracts like!

[Treant]

12. I resemble that remark!

I'm white as a sheet, male, and although not really angry I do find myself somewhat miffed more and more often as I age.

Trust me, Hillary Clinton all the way.

[BlueMTexpat]

26. Chalk up yet another

NOT man-baby!

[BootinUp]

13. They should of called me. nt

[BlueMTexpat]

27. That might have skewed

their results!

[ladym55]

15. Shouldn't that read uneducated white men?

I know quite a few men who are Hillary supporters and think Trump is a dangerous farce. They also are underwhelmed by Bernie.

Count among them my husband.

The Trump support I see around me is largely uneducated white guys in old trucks.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. I posted the headline verbatim

and qualified it somewhat in my own statement.

Mr BlueMTexpat is a white man who is NOT a man-baby. He is also a staunch Hillary supporter. There are plenty like him whom I know. Thank heavens for that!

But let's face it: white men - educated or not - form an overwhelming part of Trump's demographic.

[ladym55]

32. Yeah, and they all should be embarrassed

Sounds like we have two really good ones. There are quite a few out there, cutting into the Donald's main demographic.

[wysi]

16. I'm a white man...

... voting for Hillary. My opinion of guys who are planning on voting for Trump because of guy "stuff" is not very high.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

21. They're probably the ones who think farting and scratching themselves in public is manly

They're just crude boors

[BlueMTexpat]

28. Honestly, you sound like most of the

white males I know. They moved way beyond the guy "stuff" years ago.

But I have been very fortunate in my life for the most part. Not all have been as fortunate.

[KK9]

17. I kind of like some white men...

My husband and my three sons .

They are all horrified by Trump.

Granted, they are ALL Bernie supporters. I think I've made life a little to good for them, by taking care of all the nitty gritty, quiet, unsexy, details, that no one wants to hear about, so they don't have to worry their pretty little heads about it and can afford to talk "smart" . I love them anyway. But, they might be living in the Airstream in the front yard if the don't wise up!

[BlueMTexpat]

23. It sounds like there is hope for them!

The comment in the OP about this election being good for divorce lawyers might be more accurate than we know.

[ismnotwasm]

18. K&R

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

20. Here's one white guy for Hillary

In my opinion Sanders whines too much

[BlueMTexpat]

24. Love your gif!

You are so NOT a man-baby!

[Cha]

33. Some of his former supporters have cited that.. I wish more would get the "free stuff" glitter

out of their eyes and notice it.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

36. I'm sorry, but many white women--married white women--are ruining things, too.

Most haven't voted for the Democratic nominee since Bill Clinton ran in 1992. These are the "soccer moms" who may be more traditional and/or follow their husband's vote.

Most white people, period, did not vote for Al Gore, John Kerry or Barack Obama.

It required a coalition of progressive white men and women, blacks, Hispanics, and other segments of the population to get Obama into office.

[BlueMTexpat]

37. I don't necessarily disagree with

you there and I find it very disappointing as well. I find it especially disappointing that many white women have been supporting Bernie Sanders over Hillary. But I also realize that most of these are not Bernie-or-buster types. I thank heavens for my AA, POC and other minority sisters who have had the good sense all along to realize what an outstanding candidate we have in Hillary.

But demographically Trump's majority support base is more white men than any other group. That's a fact. And white men have been lording it over the world and its peoples for better or for worse for centuries. That's the point of this article.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

38. I hear you and agree. And I think a lot of support from the Bernie side are these same men.

That's why the exit poll from West Virginia.

[BlueMTexpat]

39. The sub-thread dealing with

Venn overlaps and concentric circles was spot on wrt to that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

40. Yep. I love probability statistics.

[Whimsey]

41. Don't overlook the gender/racial gap

Although I grew up in a liberal section of Chicago I have lived the last 30 years in a small, conservative, blue-dog democrat community in southern Illinois.

In 2008, one of the democratic leaders told me he could bring himself to vote for a woman, but he just could not vote for a black (man). I am convinced this is one of the reasons so many of the states Hillary won in 2008 she lost this year. A lot of the "angry white males" would vote for a white women over a black, but not over a white man, no matter what his positions were.

I also feel there are a lot of women, particularly those who have not been in a workplace where they had to compete with men, mirror those positions.

I also think a lot of the comments of the Sanders supporters mirror this gender gap. I am afraid it is the new generation of the angry white male!

[BlueMTexpat]

42. You make some excellent points

about both race and gender that are VERY evident in 2016.