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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:55 PM May 2016

"Look, the choice isn't Bernie or HRC, or Bernie or Trump...It's Hillary or Trump"

I helped a few see the light today myself. They can't have it both ways with pledged delegates and there aren't enough delegates left for him to win. At this point, he is making excuses to stay in, but the MATH is insurmountable.

Rachel Maddow is right: it's not *mean*, it's *math*.

There is no longer a choice between Hillary or Bernie. The choice is between Hillary or Trump.

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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. The hard core BSers are just in it because they hate Hillary
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

Just as we have dealt with Obama haters, we will have Hillary haters.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Yes, there has been an attempt to move the goal post for Hillary, by saying she has
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

to have the required delegate count in pledged delegates and hoping the super delegates changes over to Sanders, now that is having it one way for Hillary and another way for Sanders, can't be, not democracy. Hillary is 148 delegates away from the required, to be honest, there are more than 148 super delegates which have not endorsed and I would think there are 148 super delegates which will endorse Hillary, its over. We will proceed with the primaries and in fact I would like to see more delegates and votes for Hillary.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
6. Yeah, and if Clinton has to win on pledged delegates alone, why would Bernie get to win with SDs?
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

Don't forget the egregious double standards going on as well. If Clinton has to win with pledged alone, so does Bernie.

"The goalposts have been moved so many times, they have wheels and a jet engine now." ~unknown DUer.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
8. With his 26 year career, it would be Dem party insiders who already knew him best. And look at how
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

that support went in the primary: overwhelmingly to Hillary Clinton. One Senate endorsement out of 40+ possible. 50% of the House Progressive Caucus that he founded endorsed Clinton.

The people who know Bernie are the ones who work with him, and they clearly don't want to work with him any as President.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
4. I hope Hillary does more than just "ignore what Trump says about me"
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

I really don't think that not responding to attacks is a good way to go. Wasn't it Bill Clinton who developed the "rapid response" team? I'm afraid Hillary is going to need to get down into the dirt a little to combat Trump, otherwise all of Trump's attacks go unanswered, and you know how it goes: if you repeat something often enough, people will begin to believe it. Even if it's BS.

I'm sure there are ways to respond to Trump without getting totally covered in mud.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
5. Agreed. She needs to respond aggressively and show she's not just smart, but tough.
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

It's sad but true that many of the independents that she's going to need to defeat this little cockroach will not be impressed by intellect. Lowest common denominator, but I think she needs to do whatever it takes to humiliate Drump.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. Exactly! Math dictates now, not Sanders. And math denotes that it's now betwee Hillary and Trump.
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:51 PM
May 2016

Why is that so hard for some to see? Even a few BS supporters have acknowledged that Sanders has zero path toward the Democratic Party nomination and are supporting Hillary Clinton because the alternative isn't Sanders. It's Trump.

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