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Every idea ever noted by man was Bernie's idea. No one has ever had ideas other than Bernie Sanders. (Original Post) TwilightZone May 2016 OP
I think he stole most of his ideas from Karl Marx! Walk away May 2016 #1
LOL workinclasszero May 2016 #10
burnie's not real.. he's a figment. Cha May 2016 #2
Bernies a day late and a dollar short....again workinclasszero May 2016 #7
Count Every Vote Act of 2005.....Sen. Clinton, Hillary Rodham [D-NY] (Introduced 02/17/2005) workinclasszero May 2016 #3
This + 10,000! LisaM May 2016 #5
You know I did! workinclasszero May 2016 #8
Yay! LisaM May 2016 #12
Nice. Conyers also had a bill the same year, as someone noted in the thread. TwilightZone May 2016 #6
IKR? workinclasszero May 2016 #9
Snort! LisaM May 2016 #4
That apartheid thread reminded me of the old (old, old) DU. TwilightZone May 2016 #15
That would mean mocking 90% of the main forums! Walk away May 2016 #18
The "paid operative" stuff is just about the laziest excuse for avoiding discussion I've ever seen. TwilightZone May 2016 #21
You mean, you haven't been drawing nonsense-mocking overtime all this time? jmowreader May 2016 #54
Me too! (I've been here since 2001) LisaM May 2016 #20
"No, I may not consume thy comestibles nor thy potables! BEGONE!"" TwilightZone May 2016 #26
I don't drink with YOU!!! LisaM May 2016 #28
One of the most hilarious DU threads ever. sufrommich May 2016 #39
Lol! Quayblue May 2016 #40
That thread is a classic! mcar May 2016 #47
Pyramids, yes, they were his idea. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #11
And don't get me started about Stonehenge and Clintonian druids. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #13
Bernie was the first one to paint his face Blue!!!! Walk away May 2016 #19
LOL Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #31
I think this thread needs some photoshopping! livetohike May 2016 #14
Among others: George II May 2016 #16
"It was a Russian inwention." okasha May 2016 #51
Like the post office banking. Starry Messenger May 2016 #17
Gad, he's a piece of work LisaM May 2016 #22
He just came out against Prop 13 in CA, which made me laugh myself sick. Starry Messenger May 2016 #25
Wow workinclasszero May 2016 #60
LOL savalez May 2016 #23
LOL Exactly what I thought when I saw that pathetic post! SunSeeker May 2016 #24
Following Sanders lead, savalez May 2016 #27
Worship the Sanders shenmue May 2016 #29
Don't @ your own peril Cha May 2016 #57
Woe to you unbelievers! workinclasszero May 2016 #62
Didn't you hear, he was given Sainthood when he saw the Pope in the papal urinal liberal N proud May 2016 #30
Ah yes... Bernie Sanders, the patron saint of those the pope says need a psychiatrist. Koinos May 2016 #33
I think mr & mrs BS were trying to push that but by then everybody had just about had Cha May 2016 #58
Does he own the really dumb ideas too? Koinos May 2016 #32
Or the ones that clearly contradict the "message", like supporting the F35 and regime change in Iraq TwilightZone May 2016 #34
If you put on your Bernie-colored glasses, those ideas just disappear. Koinos May 2016 #37
Oh brother! mcar May 2016 #35
That may be one of the dumbest things I've seen in LBN. sufrommich May 2016 #36
"Common Dreams" should be renamed "Bernie Daydreams." Koinos May 2016 #38
Yes, they were always a little fantasyland, but I liked the site LisaM May 2016 #41
There are a lot of websites I liked a lot more before this election season.... TwilightZone May 2016 #42
I'm disappointed that a number of progressive sites I like have chosen to drink the Bernie kool-aid. Koinos May 2016 #43
Bernie has really poisoned the water. LisaM May 2016 #44
A lot of them are political neophytes. TwilightZone May 2016 #45
Bernie is their perfect candidate, details? Don't worry just be angry! nt BootinUp May 2016 #49
Have a look at the Bernie at Pine Ridge thread okasha May 2016 #46
Or what life has been like there in the four decades since. TwilightZone May 2016 #50
I swear to Coyote, okasha May 2016 #52
And he coined the phrase "Love Trumps Hate™" NurseJackie May 2016 #48
Hillarycare Whimsey May 2016 #53
I'm never going to forgive Sanders fleabiscuit May 2016 #55
lol Cha May 2016 #56
There was no Big Bang.......it was the Burnie Bang! charlyvi May 2016 #59
Just the independent ones. TwilightZone May 2016 #61
The wheel? savalez May 2016 #63
savalez...After reading the link and all the BSers comments, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. skylucy May 2016 #65
That's my job here. :) savalez May 2016 #66
LOL, so like them. wisteria May 2016 #64
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Count Every Vote Act of 2005.....Sen. Clinton, Hillary Rodham [D-NY] (Introduced 02/17/2005)
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

Count Every Vote Act of 2005
109th Congress (2005-2006)


Sponsor: Sen. Clinton, Hillary Rodham [D-NY] (Introduced 02/17/2005)
Committees: Senate - Rules and Administration

Introduced in Senate (02/17/2005)

Count Every Vote Act of 2005 - Amends the Help America Vote Act of 2002 with respect to: (1) requirements for voter verification and manual audit capacity; (2) accessibiliity of the voting system for language minority individuals in a manner that provides the same opportunity for access, participation, inspection, and verification as for other voters; (3) prohibition of the use of undisclosed software and of wireless communication devices in voting systems; (4) certification of software and hardware used in electronic voting systems; (5) security standards for manufacturers of voting systems used in Federal elections; (6) mandatory recounts; (7) study, testing, and development of best practices to enhance accessibility and voter verification mechanisms for disabled voters; (8) voter verification and audit capacity funding; (9) security consultation services; (10) casting and counting of provisional ballots; (11) minimum required voting systems, poll workers, and election resources; (12) remedial plans for States with excessive voter wait times; (13) absentee voting; (14) public reports on Federal elections; (15) training of election officials; (16) impartial administration of elections; (17) standards for purging voters; (18) election day registration and early voting; (19) voter registration and identification; (20) prohibition of certain campaign activities; (21) voting rights of individuals convicted of criminal offenses; (22) election day as a public holiday; and (23) the Election Assistance Commission.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/senate-bill/450

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
6. Nice. Conyers also had a bill the same year, as someone noted in the thread.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

This is nothing new, of course. Sanders supporters sometimes act like the world began when he announced for president.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. IKR?
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

Bernie has done jack in his long political career and I'm sure we would get more of the same with President Birdie.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
4. Snort!
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

DU is waking up a little, I think, though. Lots of people jumped on that (and the one a couple of days ago suggesting Bernie tried to end apartheid while Hillary failed single-handedly to stop it while she was First Lady of Arkansas).

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
15. That apartheid thread reminded me of the old (old, old) DU.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

When people could engage in a little critical thinking and when mocking nonsense was still kind of the norm.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
18. That would mean mocking 90% of the main forums!
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:32 PM
May 2016

That's a full time job! Lucky that we are all paid operatives. We could make a fortune in "nonsense mocking" overtime!

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
21. The "paid operative" stuff is just about the laziest excuse for avoiding discussion I've ever seen.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

It's right up there with "nuh uh!"

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
54. You mean, you haven't been drawing nonsense-mocking overtime all this time?
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:30 AM
May 2016

Jeeze dude, where have you been? File form 1369-BP to get reimbursed!

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
26. "No, I may not consume thy comestibles nor thy potables! BEGONE!""
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

I hardly ever use this term unless I'm being sarcastic, but OMG, that's hilarious!

I somehow missed that one. It was probably during one of my various self-imposed exiles from DU.

I'm not sure how many different ways something can be explained to someone, but DU tried them all in that thread. Too funny.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
28. I don't drink with YOU!!!
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

Last edited Fri May 13, 2016, 04:10 PM - Edit history (1)

I laughed myself silly over that yesterday and I've re-read that danged thing half a dozen times.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Among others:
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

"Mr. Watson — Come here — I want you."

"I have not yet begun to fight"

"Give me liberty or give me death"

"Four score and seven years ago....."

"Ask not what your country can do for you...."

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself"

And one of the more disturbing:

"I shall return"

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
22. Gad, he's a piece of work
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

For one thing, you can actually already buy money orders at the Post Office and transact business through a P.O. box, so it's hardly even a reach.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. He just came out against Prop 13 in CA, which made me laugh myself sick.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

Progressives have been working on reforming that piece of law for ages and Mr. Bandwagon just figures this out a month before our primary. Gee, thanks, Mister!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
60. Wow
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

I guess when you spend decades in Congress with nothing to show for it....

Well Mr Progressive did protect big gun manufacturers from lawsuits and voted down the Brady bill 5 times, can't forget that crap.

...you and your followers just have to invent your progressive credentials.

Cha

(297,185 posts)
58. I think mr & mrs BS were trying to push that but by then everybody had just about had
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:26 AM
May 2016

it with burnie and his search for the Pope.. including the Pope.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
32. Does he own the really dumb ideas too?
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

The problem with cults is that their "perfect world" happens to be a very small world. Everyone else lives somewhere else.

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
34. Or the ones that clearly contradict the "message", like supporting the F35 and regime change in Iraq
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:06 PM
May 2016

Nah, nothing to see here. Move along.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
36. That may be one of the dumbest things I've seen in LBN.
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

I remember when LBN used to actually be late breaking news,now opinion sites Common Dreams are allowed. The forum hosts need to do their job and restore LBN to news only.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
38. "Common Dreams" should be renamed "Bernie Daydreams."
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

That site has left the realm of logical discourse.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
41. Yes, they were always a little fantasyland, but I liked the site
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

It's long since departed the reality train, though.

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
42. There are a lot of websites I liked a lot more before this election season....
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

Crooks and Liars, Salon, etc. They've all been swarmed by the same crowd as DU. A lot of the posters are even the same.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
43. I'm disappointed that a number of progressive sites I like have chosen to drink the Bernie kool-aid.
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

Bernie has done a lot of harm to what is genuinely valuable about the progressive movement.

In my very humble opinion, Martin O'Malley, a life-long Democrat, was a better messenger for progressive ideas. He was not anger-driven.

But we go on, as best we can.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
44. Bernie has really poisoned the water.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

I suppose he was always like that and we just never noticed it before. What I don't get is the total fanaticism of his supporters, who ignore that many good progressives have been fighting for the same ideas for decades. They seem absolutely frantic about the election as being a last hope.

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
45. A lot of them are political neophytes.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

That's one explanation. I've had conversations with Sanders supporters who didn't know that there's a Congressional Progressive Caucus in Congress - with, shocker!; real, live, actual progressives - even though Sanders is himself a member. Those that do know it exists don't realize that those aren't the only progressives in Congress. There are a lot of them. Just not enough.

A lot of his supporters are independents (as they will never stop reminding everyone) that are so impressed with their independent status that they haven't ever bothered to learn anything about politics, politicians, or political history. And, yet, they know it all.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
46. Have a look at the Bernie at Pine Ridge thread
Fri May 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

Not one of the Bernsters knows what happened there 43 years ago, or why it's important. (One thinks it had to do with cannabis, which is just pathetic.)

They don't know a damn thing about the history of civil rights conflicts unless they can fit BS into it.

TwilightZone

(25,470 posts)
50. Or what life has been like there in the four decades since.
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
May 2016

I spent some time in my 'formative' years in and around Pine Ridge and the other reservations in central/western SD. My grandfather had a job that required a lot of travel and interaction in that part of the state, and I often went with him. I was already predisposed to being a liberal at a very young age, but those experiences further shaped my views.

Anyone who believes the ridiculous stereotypes about Native Americans (or, perhaps worse, knows nothing about the history, how they got there, and why many of them stay) should go live there for a month, assuming they'd make it that long. I think it would fundamentally change how they view poverty, alcoholism, drug abuse, and myriad other issues. We can start with the Libertarians.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
52. I swear to Coyote,
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:20 PM
May 2016

I have trouble telling the Bernies from the Bundys.

I wish Bernie and his minions would just go back to ignoring us NDNs as they've done for the last forty years.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
48. And he coined the phrase "Love Trumps Hate™"
Fri May 13, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

It's his! All his! Nobody else can use it without giving proper credit and attribution.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
53. Hillarycare
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

And of course Bernie voted against Hillarycare back in the 90's when he was a representative, because it was not universal care. Twenty years later he votes for Obamacare - guess he finally realized universal care would only be achieved in babysteps. But still did not care that he set the movement back twenty years.

Now he wants to get credit for implementing universal care even though real democrats have been working on it for decades! Give that credit to Hillary - she was the forerunner of the movement!

Give me pragmatism any day!

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
55. I'm never going to forgive Sanders
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:19 AM
May 2016

For cutting away from the last 65 seconds of the '68 Raiders / Jets game to show Heidi!

skylucy

(3,739 posts)
65. savalez...After reading the link and all the BSers comments, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
Sun May 15, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

Then I found your cartoon and comment. Thanks!

savalez

(3,517 posts)
66. That's my job here. :)
Sun May 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Comedic relief and the occasional intelligent discourse (and I do mean occasional!).

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