MISSING IN ACTION: Bravenak, MaggieD, KMOD, and others ...

[NurseJackie]

... has anyone seen them? I don't understand why they've fallen off the face of the (digital) earth. I hope everything's okay with them.

I know that people have actual lives OUTSIDE of cyberspace, and I also know that people's interests will ebb and flow, or wax and wane ... so it's probably nothing for me to be concerned about.

Still, I miss their voices, insights and perspectives, and I hope they check-in to say hello and let us know that everything's okay.

[msongs]

1. bravenak posts at dkos time to time. interesting as always nt

[NurseJackie]

2. BTW: Alerters and TS-ers ... this thread is in the Hillary Group. (Thank you very much.)

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. You just answered your inquiry ...

There comes a time/point where folks just say screw it. I suspect that time/point has been reached.

[NurseJackie]

4. Perhaps you're correct ... I might be getting there myself.

2U

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. I rarely post anything of substance anymore. What's the point? ...

Perhaps, after the convention I will have a change of heart/mind.

[riversedge]

45. agree. Why post anything about Hillary policy in gd-p? It is just an opportunity for Sanders

fan to hit on Hillary--post after post. I do sometimes but certainly have cut down on it.

[sheshe2]

10. All three

are on indefinate flagged for review as are others. They all have been for some time.

[Squinch]

41. So much for the amnesty.

[riversedge]

46. So purgatory Does Exist--at least on DU!

[murielm99]

35. I have just about reached that point, too.

[Jamaal510]

5. I just saw

them on another site. They're probably just taking a break from here. I don't blame them.

[Cha]

21. No, Jamaal.. they are on FFR.. and have been for weeks and some over a month.. Skinner

isn't letting them back in for some reason and it's totally unfair.

The majority gave them 2 hides in 24 hours.. that was their big sin.

[SunSeeker]

32. It used to be 5 hides got you a 90-day timeout. Now 2 hides puts you on indefinite timeout?!

[Cha]

34. I know.. thank you, SunSeeker.. it's crazy time!

[Loki]

94. And yet we have the false equivalency that Hillary supporters are just as bad as BS followers.

We have real Democrats being threatened verbally and via the internet with bodily harm by Bernie Sanders supporters and it continues on a daily basis here on DU and I see the same perps doing it non stop. This shit has to stop soon. I'm glad that at least Harry Reid and President Obama stepped up to the plate today and made their intentions very clear. Other websites have shut this shit down, but here we are still dealing with it. Sad statement about the DU that I thought I knew.

[wildeyed]

7. Hmmm.... I wonder where they could be.

[William769]

8. I know! I know!

[savalez]

9. Nice going by the way...

You had no choice. Skinner is effing up big time.

[ismnotwasm]

16. Heh!

[Squinch]

43. Heh heh heh...

[Haveadream]

11. Some of the best voices are silenced

If they are reading this, I hope they see that they are truly missed.

[Cha]

22. Yes, Mahalo, Haveadream~ We miss them so much and I'm so glad Jackie is

bringing it to light

[Tarc]

12. Hmm, those are some pretty lengthy FFRs

When I see some Bernie DU'ers FFRs only last 2-3 days.

[wysi]

13. There are clearly...

... two sets of rules here nowadays.

[grossproffit]

15. Yep.

[sheshe2]

17. Hmmm. Yup.

[Cha]

23. I know.. it's heartbreaking! And.. Why, Skinner?!

[FarPoint]

76. What is FFR?

[Cha]

79. Flagged for Review.. which puts us in purgatory. You can't post, you can't PM your friends on

DU.. usually it's for a couple of days until Skinner lets them out.

But, for our buddies here it's been weeks and some almost 2 months.. and nothing. No response when they've contacted the Admin

It's weird... like the Twilight Zone.

[FarPoint]

81. Ohhhhhh okay.

I just couldn't connect letter with words. Thanks.

[Cha]

82. No problem.. I just know it so well because all of sudden all my friends were FFR!

[kdmorris]

57. I think they got tired of taking them off FFR just to have the back on again

2-3 days later. You can't exactly keep acting like they do and expect that there are no consequences.

As for Bernie supporters, two of them got PPR'd, which is a forever FFR, so I can't see how you feel that it's only 2-3 days. They aren't on FFR because they are Hilary supporters... they are on FFR because they can't play nice.

[Fla Dem]

59. If you take a look at their transparency pages a number of those hides

were pretty innocuous posts. Granted a few may have been OTT, but to me it looks like a focused effort to eliminate the more outspoken HRC supporters.

[1StrongBlackMan]

64. a focused effort ...

to eliminate the more outspoken BLACKS, PERCEIVED TO BE HRC supporters.

[kdmorris]

65. Only bravenak is black, though

so that doesn't make sense...

[Cha]

71. Well, it makes sense if you know what he's talking about... it's not just those who are on

FRR LImbo Hell.

There was a concentrated effort to censor Black Voices on Du when the #BLM crisis was going on.

[Cha]

72. I agree, Fla Dem.. please see my post..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=133503

[Cha]

70. Well, you thought wrong then.. the majortiy on this board alerted on and hid the Hill supporters..

who are on permanent FFR.. and theirs weren't against TOS.. it was because they are outspoken Hillary supporters.

The Jury System is FUBARED but that's no reason to punish Hillary Supporters because they got 2 hides in 24 hours. Take them off FFR or tell them why you're not.

Don't leave them in Limbo where they can't even PM their friends.. that's worse than the 3 months forced time outs Rule.. when the alert stalkers censored them, and got them 5 hides.. and NOT for posting against TOS. At least they knew when they were coming back.

If you look @ the BS fans' hides.. theirs are for being against TOS.

Why all the mystery where we have to guess what's going on?.. And, it wasn't because they weren't "playing nice". you have no idea what you're talking about.

[kdmorris]

73. No, we will have to disagree on this

I guess you've done some sort of analysis on all of the Bernie supporters vs the Hilary supporters?

I believe that you are suffering from what is called confirmation bias. Since they are YOUR friends and they support the same candidate that you do... it's unfair. However, the "others" that are NOT your friends are bad, horrible people that deserve it.

Hides are Community Standards hides. I agree that the jury system is FUBARED, but I don't agree that it only affects YOUR side.

I know of one Bernie supporter who has been on FFR for 5 days now. They don't have enough hides to have their transparency page visible like all these that are on extended FFR. His 2 hides were not even remotely against the TOS...

But hey, live in your bubble and refuse to see the truth... go for it.

It is people like you that make it very difficult to take people seriously sometimes...

[Cha]

74. And, I believe you don't come into Hillary's Group where we are supporting our Friends and

say they need to play nice. Or insult us when it is you who don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I didn't say it only affects our side.. I'm talking about who I know have been on FFR for weeks.. some close to 2 months now.

You go live in your bubble.. we're into reality here.

[William769]

75. You just lost your own argument by what you wrote.

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and you vision will start to clear immediately.

[grossproffit]

14. Geek tragedy too.

[sheshe2]

18. Another one.

Geek almost a month now.

Cosmicone as well.

[sheshe2]

19. Lift up every Voice and Sing

Our voices need to be heard,

[Cha]

20. Hey Aloha, Jackie! Mahalo for posting on this.. Bravenak, MaggieD, KMOD, geek tragedy,

cosmicone, and others have been FFR(Flagged For Review) for weeks, some over a month. They're in DU Limbo. And, I can't understand why Skinner doesn't let them back in?!

I've seen him let many members off FFR and but not my friends and I wonder what's up with that.. it's not fair.

They have been censored and silenced by the majority.. but why isn't Skinner coming to the aid of his members who have done nothing wrong but they do support Hillary.

I miss them, too.. Thank you so much for bringing this to light!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

24. This place isn't the same without them - Bravenak was like a constant here......

[NurseJackie]

47. <3 :-)

[Cha]

63. BACKATCHA~

[NanceGreggs]

25. Well, it probably won't surprise you, NJ ...

... to know that some DUers - many of them long time star members who have contributed to this site for years - are in "flagged for review" limbo, and are no longer able to post here. You can imagine how frustrating it is for them to see so many newbies, who post nothing but RW talking points and anti-Democrat rhetoric, to have free rein here while they have been relegated to persona non grata status.

But all is well - they post elsewhere, where actual Democrats gather for intelligent discussion rather than demeaning the party that DU alleges to support.

[NurseJackie]

48. It's a shame how things become ...

... through neglect and indifference.

[Walk away]

58. That's why I drop kicked my star when the "used car salesman" crap started...

It was clear that things would only go down hill.

[Bleacher Creature]

26. What about DanTex? Also FFR?

[redstateblues]

28. Jinx you owe me a coke. Crazy we posted that at exactly the same time!

[Bleacher Creature]

30. Wow. To the exact minute!!

Cokes on me!

[Cha]

29. Ah.. YES! DanTex! Another one, I miss.. who seems to be on Permanent FFR.. What Is UP WITH

THIS?! Please, Skinner.. set them FREE!

Thanks BC~

[redstateblues]

27. What about DanTex?

[oasis]

31. Kicking for solidarity with valued DUers

[Gomez163]

33. When Hillary is nominated things will change.

[comradebillyboy]

36. I doubt it

The site is run exactly as the site owner wants it run. Most revenue come from the Bernouts not the Clinton supporters. It's a simple business decision. He ran off all the Clinton supporters eight years ago and he's doing it again. He may change his approach after the convention but why would anyone who supports Hillary want to stay? I have been a member since 2001 and took a long break after 2008. Now I post from time to time but I don't even have DU book marked anymore. I really don't care what Skinner does with his site after the convention.

[LAS14]

92. How does this site get revenue? I don't...

...see any adds. I didn't pay a fee.

tia
las

[comradebillyboy]

93. All those good folks with gold stars give the site money

and I'm guessing you have your adblocker turned on.

[Fla Dem]

95. If you donate to DU, which you do, the ads are blocked. nt.

[Squinch]

44. I don't know. The mask is off. This isn't a site that supports Democrats. When you have a site

dominated by people who are STILL talking about how BS is going to win, rah rah rah, you know you are dealing with a lot of fringe lunatics who are dancing around in a world of their own.

So many of the new people coming in are clearly here just to disrupt the Democratic effort, and the reasonable long-time posters are out-shouted by a handful of deranged idiots who do nothing but smear the Democratic candidate.

There is no real news here any more. The only thing that was left was the cool interest stories, but a member of the other site is posting more of that than anyone here.

I don't feel good will towards this place. I only come to see the HC people who don't post at the other site.

[Hortensis]

60. I don't mind people talking about how Sanders is

going to win. I mind those who viciously attack our other candidate, both with lies and without but with extreme nastiness.

[lunamagica]

37. They were pushed off the site by cowards with pea-sized brains who couldn't handle

their intelligence and command of the issues...idiots who can't argue, so they banded together to get rid of them.

It's a pity. Without them, the quality of DU -and its IQ- has hit rock bottom

[Cha]

39. Yes, they were alerted on and hidden and censored by the majority BS fans.. but,

Skinner is the one who isn't letting them get off FFR for some reason.. they seems very weird to me.. when he lets everyone else off of FFR.. why not our friends whom we've come to know and love over the years?

Gracias, lunamagica~

[still_one]

40. You are absolutely right on that

[Hekate]

38. I miss them. Someday we'll meet again here, but very likely it will always be in the Groups...

BOG, AA, HRC... Because I have to say that over the past 7 1/2 years Democratic Underground has proven itself to be hostile to actual Democrats once they get elected to office. The Democrats of the imagination are always so much better than the ones who actually get in.

[Coolest Ranger]

42. The stalking of Hillary supporters

is another reason why Bernie is getting beating and losing this fight. Bernie's supporters want to spend their time silencing us then working with us.

[Fla Dem]

49. Last posts of MaggieD, Bravenak, cosmicone, KMOD, DanTex and geek tragedy.

They all went down in a space of a month. They all had 10 or more hides which I would think got them their FFR. But looking at their transparency pages, it's clear there was a concerted effort to "alert target" them.

MaggieD got 3 hides between 3/19-3/21
Bravenak got 3 hides on 4/4
cosmicone got 7 hides between 4/1-4/7
KMOD got 3 hides on 4/7
DanTex got 6 hides between 4/1-4/14
geek tragedy got 9 hides between 3/18-4/21

The long knives were out.
MaggieD been on the longest, it will be 2 months by the end of next week. Hope they start coming off soon.

MaggieD's last post 3/21/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1544608
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=106348
10 hides

Bravenak's last post 4/4/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1644916
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=300456
11 hides

cosmicone's last post 4/6/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1666086
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=143870
15 hides

KMOD's last post 4/7/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1668522
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=317937
10 hides

DanTex's last post 4/14/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1735114
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=108373
10 hides

geek tragedy's last post 4/21/2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1804678
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=144296
14 hides

[pandr32]

54. Thanks for this

Hopefully they will be back soon.

[Cha]

66. Wow.. you did the work, Fla Dem.. the research! thank you!

[workinclasszero]

69. I miss all these good democrats too

This place is a fringe zoo and many of the voices of reason have been silenced. SMH

[betsuni]

50. K&R

[redstateblues]

51. BSS went after DanTex because he always backed up his position with data

The could never refute his positions and always resorted to personal attacks. It was despicable. It showed how many BSS are immature and intellectually challenged

[LisaM]

52. K&R

Meanwhile, a particularly disagreeable Bernie person, whom I won't call out by name, is back.

[DemonGoddess]

53. K&R!

and yet we have a post in here complaining about others (not us) being alert stalked, when OUR GROUP has been viciously alert stalked and targeted for MONTHS.
[link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107132718|

[Fla Dem]

55. K&R, let's keep this one going until they're all home again!

[NurseJackie]

62. If someone wanted to pin this tribute and "miss-ya" and "come home soon" thread ...

... that would be okay with me, George. I'm not mentioning any names, Bill, but I'm just-sayin' ... if someone did, Cha, that would be okay, Nancy. Wouldn't you agree Sheshe?

[Loki]

56. We'll keep the light on for ya!

[liberal N proud]

61. We're they unfairly trumped out by the mad, mad BS'ERS?

[Cha]

68. They made the ultimate sin of getting two hides in 24 hrs by the majority of the jury

pool.. So they're Flagged for Review.. which means they can't post or even send PMs..

But, Skinner has the power to Unflagged them.. only he's not. Some have been on FFR for almost 2 months. I'm wondering what the glitch is.

These are their last posts.. researched by Fla Dem..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=132702

[Squinch]

83. Seems to me to be dishonest to say that time-outs are over, and then hold certain posters

in undeclared and unexplained time-outs.

Interesting too that all those undeclared time-outs are for Hillary supporters.

And interesting that the most egregious BS posters (example: the one who unleashed his sick and violent bestiality fantasies on another poster) are still roaming around.

[Cha]

84. Exactly Squinch.. like I just wrote in another post on this.. it's like the Twilight Zone.

I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around it.

I don't know if there are any BS fans FFR as long as Hillary supporters.. I only know about our buddies.. who have done nothing wrong but get 2 hides in 24 hours by the alert squad.. and yeah.. the one who wrote the violent bestiality fantasies is still roaming the forums.

[Squinch]

85. The sillier BS supporters seem to be in high drama and persecution mode, so if there were any

who had been silently banished like our friends, we would certainly have heard about it. I don't believe this is being done to any of them.

[Cha]

87. I don't read any of their crap except on juries so I wouldn't know..

but, that would be their MO.

[Squinch]

89. One loon was referenced from here yesterday. Really crazy stuff going on with those zombies!

I've trashed BS and GDP and still can't entirely get away from the irrelevant ones.

[Sancho]

67. They are in time out on DU, but can be seen on other sites...

At this point, we all know that GDP is practically a Sander's asylum. I go there on rare occasions and spend more time away from DU, so I can sympathize with serious progressives who try to discuss a Democratic agenda and Democratic candidates.

Hillary has won the primary, and I'm thrilled. She will make a great President. Silencing Hillary supporters - and some of the best posters of Democratic thinking - is not a good thing.

[Gomez163]

77. What other sites???

[HeiressofBickworth]

78. Real life

Real life got in the way Emergencey triple bypass a week ago today I'll write more later about heavy sedatation and access to a telephone. I'm in a rehab place for now. Yea Washington. Mail in voting . I'll mail in my ballot tomorrow.

[Cha]

80. Healing thoughts to you, heiressofBickworth~

[Squinch]

86. Heiress, I'm glad they were able to catch it, but that is very hard.

Best to you for a complete recovery.

[NurseJackie]

90. Heal quickly ...

... sending strength your way.

[onehandle]

88. Hillary supporters have been hunted relentlessly by 'Bernie Supporters.'

Note the quotes.

Frankly, I see little reason for Hillary supporters to remain here after Bernie concedes.