Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumIronically, the current superdelegate system is Bernie's last hope
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Because superdelegates are unpledged Bernie and his team can insist they still have a path by convincing these voters to switch to him (They won't, but that is a different story.). If superdelegates were actually forced to be pledged to either the state winner or proportional to the state results, meaning they can't change their votes based on personal desires, Bernie would actually be in a lot worse shape.
To get started, the states and territories that have voted have 543 superdelegates between them.
If supers for those states were allocated to the winner of each state (I.e pledged), Hillary would currently have 2,096 delegates to Bernie's 1,601. Clinton would be only 288 delegates away from securing the nomination, which, thanks to proportional allocation of regular delegates, Clinton would be guaranteed to achieve on June 7th even if she loses every remaining state.
So how about proportional allocation? That has to be better for Bernie, right? Well, not really.
Proportionally, Clinton would be at 2,009 delegates versus Sanders at 1,688. Clinton would be 375 delegates away from clinching, and with proportional allocation for all delegates including supers, she would, again, be guaranteed to secure the nomination on June 7th.
So, ironically, the current system is the only one that actually gives Bernie a chance at a "contested" convention. Every other scenario that people are grumbling should happen ("Supers need to represent the will of the people!" would result in Bernie losing without equivocation on the 7th. It is only because supers are unpledged that he can even pretend that the nomination fight will last until the convention.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)are gonna switch. Last I read, 2 switch from BS to HRC about a month ago - LOL
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)short to get it going. We now have supporters who are trying to get the attention of the super delegates, I wonder if Sanders has made any efforts on his part to contact. I think most of the SD's knows Hillary is the most qualified candidate running, and therefore have been endorsing Hillary. The theory Sanders can flip the delegates is pretty thin.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)he will try and "go against the will of the voters!" and his supporters will be fine with it after screaming and carrying on about how it was so unfair. The hypocrites.
Everything is rigged if they lose.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)Losey McLoserface has well and truly lost. Every desperate mention of a "narrow path" just makes me roll my eyes.
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)And it would be over already.
caquillo
(521 posts)... then Hillary would've already won the nomination by April 26, since she has won most of the delegate-rich states (CA, MA, NY, PA, TX, FL, NC, IL, OH) and therefore would have taken every single one of their delegates, including all the delegates in the smaller states she won. After NY (April 19), she would've had 1,906 delegates, and the following week (April 26) she would've easily crossed the 2,383 threshold, when she won delegate-rich PA and MD, as well as CT and DE.
On the other hand, Sanders would still be at only 1,057 delegates -- and that's counting his recent WV win on May 10. Winning all of CA's
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SharonClark
(10,014 posts)But, of course, he lacks any charm or social skills so how do you think that will work out for him?
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)supporters in NV today, Bernie's "charm offensive" is offensive only. I doubt that ANY SuperDs were charmed at all.
But I do know a LOT of people who are disgusted by it.