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gaspee

(3,231 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:04 PM May 2016

Nevada - what am I missing?

I work 16 hour days on the weekends (cause I'm an oligarch, dontcha know) and have not been able to get the story about Nevada and haven't had the time to research.

But just quickly -

Didn't Hillary WIN NEVADA?!?!?

How can she steal something she already won???

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Nevada - what am I missing? (Original Post) gaspee May 2016 OP
I believe bernie was the one stealing. savalez May 2016 #1
in a nutshell DLCWIdem May 2016 #8
okay thanks. savalez May 2016 #21
I found this enlightening.. Cha May 2016 #23
Good read. Thanks! savalez May 2016 #26
The Sanders campaign tried to steal a state that Hillary won. sufrommich May 2016 #2
Nothing but the death rattle of the Sanders campaign. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #3
music to my ears ....eom artyteacher May 2016 #4
He has been taken off life support........ FarPoint May 2016 #5
I don't get how gaspee May 2016 #6
You didn't miss anything. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #7
Does anyone have a good, reasonably objective news source for this? DavidDvorkin May 2016 #9
This is the best, most thorough story I've seen on the whole convention: Starry Messenger May 2016 #10
Interesting comment in that story about Sanders telling them essentially to behave TwilightZone May 2016 #14
I've read a couple of comments that suggest there are feelings that this "movement" Starry Messenger May 2016 #15
Thats easy, its called Socialism nt BootinUp May 2016 #16
Or anarchy TwilightZone May 2016 #17
DU definitely has some of them. BootinUp May 2016 #18
This is anarchism. Starry Messenger May 2016 #19
thanks gaspee May 2016 #20
Here a place to Start too: Her Sister May 2016 #11
Thanks! DavidDvorkin May 2016 #13
State conventions are Bernie's plan B liberal N proud May 2016 #12
After spending months campaigning on "let the people decide" TwilightZone May 2016 #22
There is a lot of hypocrisy in the BS bid for the White House liberal N proud May 2016 #24
Agreed. TwilightZone May 2016 #25

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
8. in a nutshell
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

NEVADa caucaus is three tiers. Election day where you pick delegates to go to county. Bernie out manovered her delegates in the April county caucauses. See go blindly what happened at clark county convention for more details. He gained delegates who went to state where the shit hit the fan when she regained delegates. Apparently over 60 of the Berns delegates didn't survive credentials. Theres a link about on this page.

Cha

(296,893 posts)
23. I found this enlightening..
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
May 2016
Bernie Sanders Fans Take Massive Dump On Nevada Democratic Convention Floor

You guys know Wonkette is officially neutral in the Democratic primary. Evan and I are bought-and-paid-for neolib corporate piece of shit Hillary shills; Dok and Robyn and Shy are fine upstanding citizens who support Bernie. We don’t know who Intern Dominic is backing, but judging by some comments in the chatcave it is whoever can give him the spanking he so richly deserves. (That would be Hillary then.)

After hours spent trying to figure out why Bernie Sanders delegates were screaming that the Democrats had stolen the (Democratic!) convention, we’re still a little hazy, and Jon Ralston has yet to weigh in at his blog. But here’s what seems to have happened, as near as we can tell.

http://wonkette.com/601848/bernie-sanders-fans-take-massive-dump-on-nevada-democratic-convention-floor

LIsa~http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107133757

savalez

(3,517 posts)
26. Good read. Thanks!
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

So 60 bernie voters changed their party and wonder why they can't be delegates? Crazy.

The comment section is hilarious too.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
6. I don't get how
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:25 PM
May 2016

She can be accused of stealing something that she already won - and the downright nastiness - It just sucks.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
7. You didn't miss anything.
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

Hillary did win Nevada at the caucus in March.

Some Bernie supporters have tried to steal it TWICE since then, once at the county convention and again at the state convention. Yes, twice.

But they failed ... and made total fools of themselves in the process. But that isn't their version, of course.

If this experience doesn't prove that caucuses should be replaced by primaries, I don't know what will. But some Bernie supporters have demonstrated that they are essentially rule-challenged. Those "supporters" are libertarians who want only to disrupt unless they get their way.

DavidDvorkin

(19,469 posts)
9. Does anyone have a good, reasonably objective news source for this?
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

I want to be able to post a link on Facebook as a response to posts claiming that what happened in Nevada was some kind of underhanded dealing by the Clinton campaign.

TwilightZone

(25,430 posts)
14. Interesting comment in that story about Sanders telling them essentially to behave
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

"The night before the convention, however, Sanders had urged his supporters in a statement to be respectful and constructive at the state convention."

As I've said elsewhere, some of them have their own agendas and aren't about to take the advice of even their own candidate.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
15. I've read a couple of comments that suggest there are feelings that this "movement"
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

goes beyond support for Sanders now. I honestly don't know what the aims are at this point, it just seems to be to cause instability and provides a focus for the disgruntled.

TwilightZone

(25,430 posts)
17. Or anarchy
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

I have a friend who's an off-the-grid type who thinks that civilization and government are going to collapse, blah blah. Some of the people in this "movement" sound a lot more like he does than like any liberals or progressives I know.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
12. State conventions are Bernie's plan B
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:13 PM
May 2016

Flip or steal the delegates in the conventions.

Nevada failed miserably.

TwilightZone

(25,430 posts)
25. Agreed.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:30 AM
May 2016

Desperation does funny things to people. I honestly don't know if it's created this "real" Bernie or if he's always been like this or if it's a combination of the two.

One article I read from 1983 quoted one of his colleagues saying that he's very confrontational and that it would come back to bite him one day. A little prophetic, that.

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