Markos Moulitsas: Yeah, I changed my mind. Elizabeth Warren for VP!

[Rose Siding]

.....I’ve changed my mind. I now want Clinton to pick Warren for the VP slot.

Forget geography or demographics. I’ve long argued that the VP pick should be based, in most part, on base engagement. The ideal model for a VP (during campaign season) is someone like Dick Cheney, someone who will rally the base and lob the kinds of attacks against the opposing nominee that our own nominee can’t.

Warren certainly qualifies on both counts, with unparalleled credibility among the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party. And, it’s been fun watching her get under Donald Trump’s skin on Twitter. (He called her “Pocahontas” over the weekend...) She’s certainly well-suited for the attack-dog role. Trump already reacts poorly to criticism, but criticism from women sends him into another realm of tizzy. We don’t need to guess as to whether she’ll be effective at it. She’s already proven that.

Interestingly, at least some Clinton people seem to be thinking along similar lines:

Multiple sources close to the former secretary of state say that her aides took note of the senator’s ability to rile the real estate tycoon. And they recognize the value of such dart throwing from, say, someone filling out a presidential ticket.

One close Clinton confidant said that she and her aides were “thrilled to see Warren get under his skin.” Another senior Clinton adviser, who is advocating internally for Warren as a vice presidential pick, said the senator has “very influential people in the campaign pushing for her.”

A longtime Clinton veteran said the campaign definitely noticed Warren’s attacks. “You want a running mate who can take the fight to the other side with relish,” the veteran said. “Geography does not matter, but attitude and talent and energy and bringing excitement to the campaign, Senator Warren does all that.”

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Ultimately, this isn’t an easy call one way or the other. It’s perfectly reasonable to advocate for SENATOR Elizabeth Warren, rather than VICE PRESIDENT Elizabeth Warren.

For my part, I’m now on team “vice president”, but not without acknowledging the real risks.

p.s. I still think Hilda Solis would be an acceptable option.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/16/1526996/-Yeah-I-changed-my-mind-Elizabeth-Warren-for-VP

I'm not entirely convinced, but he makes a great argument because f.u.n.

[yallerdawg]

1. Gore and Biden are examples of impactful Democratic VP's in the office!

Clinton/Warren, with a 50% female cabinet, and a strong representation of younger 'minority' Democrats ready to take up the mantle in 8 years?

Yeah - this could work!

[BlueCaliDem]

2. Nope. Two women on the ticket will be a surefire way to lose to Trump. Hands down.

Markos of all people should know what a male-centric country this is.

Besides, Warren and Clinton don't really see eye-to-eye on a lot of things, and we can't have two captains on a ship without them respecting one another. No. With the change of demographics, we need a young, charismatic Latino as Hillary's VP pick. Castro is the one she should pick, and she'll lock up the Mexican-American and Latino vote and maybe even win Texas, where he hails from.

[Rose Siding]

4. The demographics issue is one that holds me back

The other is that Warren was an econ professor long before she became a Dem. Her stated reason for being gop was she thought they were strong on econ. Very weird to me that an educated woman could remain a Republican up until the 90s.

I like her positions now, and what she says now. Still that bothers me some. I have a trust issue, especially considering Hillary's only stated qualification for her pick is whether they could serve as president.

[BlueCaliDem]

8. I feel the same way as you do, Rose, although I'm less on the distrust

about Warren than you appear to be. It still bothers me, too, though since it tells me something about her judgment, politically.

Warren brings nothing to the ticket other than wishy-washy Liberals who don't bother to register as Democrats as it is. She can't bring her State since MA will vote Democratic anyway. She can't pull along the fastest growing voting demographic amongst PoC, either. Aside from these two issues, I don't see two strong women having to work together. I think a powerplay would happen behind the scenes that would take the focus off of getting things done for this country.

[yallerdawg]

6. Are you suggesting "two women" is too much?

If Trump said such a thing, he would be in a world of shit!

We may be on the verge of breaking some glass ceilings - but let's try not to put up some new ones.

[BlueCaliDem]

7. For male-centric United States? Yes. As liberal as we would like our country to be, men of all

demographics still have problems stereotyping women in our culture(s). It's especially strong in the Latino community (although Hillary is one tough cookie, and they know it and don't really have a problem with her, specifically).

Let's break one glass ceiling at a time, yallerdawg, and let's be realistic about it. Let's not try and overplay our hand. Hillary's got this IF she doesn't mess up before November, and choosing Warren as her VP running mate will almost certainly cause her trouble she doesn't need now that Republicans are slowly uniting around that bigot on their side.

[MynameisBlarney]

3. I don't think Warren is interested in the Veep slot at this time.

I truly believe she is having entirely too much fun making WS piss their pants.
And I am not sure that she'd run with Hillary if she were interested in the Vice Presidency.

[KittyWampus]

5. I don't believe for a second the Clinton camp is remotely considering Warren,,,

but I do think that Kos writing this is an attempt to placate obnoxious Sanders supporters.

[Koinos]

9. I like the idea, on so many levels.

My thinking has evolved on this, and I don't think Castro is what we need at this point. I don't see him as an aggressive attack dog, and an aggressive attack dog is what we need. Joe Biden liked the idea of her as a VP, and I am beginning to understand why.

Moreover, the Hispanic vote has already been handed to Clinton by Trump. By election day, I doubt if Trump could count on five percent of the Hispanic vote, no matter how he pretends to change his pitch by then.

[sufrommich]

10. I don't know if Warren will be the VP pick,although it

would be awesome,but if she's not she'll end up with a cabinet position.