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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:02 AM May 2016

Reporter who voted for Bernie Sanders is now telling him to “pack up and go home” (HRC GP)

The thing about movements is that once they’ve run their course, they tend to either come to a stop or veer off in the wrong direction. Now that Bernie Sanders has fallen behind Hillary Clinton by three million votes and he’s clearly not going to be the democratic nominee, his campaign – at least as far as his reasonable supporters are concerned – is over. Now that they’ve stepped off the train, it’s largely being driven by fanatics who are trying to make sure it goes down in flames. Sanders himself refuses to distance himself from their actions. And that’s prompting some of his most prominent supporters to distance themselves from him entirely. In fact one of them just told Bernie to “go home.”

Writing for Esquire Magazine, Charles P. Pierce publicly supported Bernie Sanders during the competitive days of the primary race and voted for him in February. But now that the race has been decided in a blowout and Sanders no longer has a meaningful role to play as a candidate, his lunatic fringe supporters have become the main supporters his campaign has left. After they tried to hijack the Nevada democratic convention in a manner which must have been thoroughly embarrassing to any reasonable person who was ever a part of the Bernie movement, Sanders himself has thus far declined to disavow himself from the petty violence that was carried out in his name. Pierce has had enough of the antics.

“It’s Time for Bernie Sanders to Pack Up and Go Home,” he declared today in a headline for Esquire, the same publication where he once extolled the virtues of voting for Sanders. As for the increasingly absurd claim that things were somehow rigged against Sanders, he flatly declares that “if anybody thinks that, somehow, he is having the nomination ‘stolen’ from him, they are idiots.”

And so now Bernie’s ongoing willingness to sit back and let the lunatic fringe to carry out his dirty work – both online and at conventions – has cost him yet another prominent ally. By the time he gets back the Senate, he may not have any meaningful allies left at all.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/reporter-who-voted-for-bernie-sanders-tells-him-to-pack-up-and-go-home/24816/


It's Time for Bernie Sanders to Pack Up and Go Home
Let's talk about this huge mess in Nevada over *four* delegates


The latest chapter came at this weekend's Democratic state convention in Nevada, where the Sanders faction went completely bananas because the rules by which you had to be a Democrat to participate in a Democratic convention were simply too much for them to bear. Senator Barbara Boxer got booed. Punches and chairs were thrown.


That being said, this whole mess was over four freaking delegates, and the Sanders people should know better than to conclude what has been a brilliant and important campaign by turning it into an extended temper tantrum.

I voted for Bernie Sanders. I even wrote about why I did here at this very shebeen. But if anybody thinks that, somehow, he is having the nomination "stolen" from him, they are idiots.

And, no, I don't want to talk about it.


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a44904/nevada-democratic-convention/
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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
1. Charlie Pierce's article is excellent
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016

I understood why he supported Sanders because he gave rational reasons without name-calling. Now, he does an equally good job explaining why it's over.

HerSister - Thanks for sharing this.

Love Charlie on It's Only a Game on NPR.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
6. Thank you for this, HS.. there was something interesting the other night
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

that I saw Charlie Pierce said about the BS campaign and now I can't remember what it was.

It made me think I was wrong when I thought he supported burnie.. but, I see here he "did&quot being the operative word)..

Just not now.. he's not going to linger over a campaign that is metaphorically dead in the water.

"As for the increasingly absurd claim that things were somehow rigged against Sanders, he flatly declares that “if anybody thinks that, somehow, he is having the nomination ‘stolen’ from him, they are idiots.”

Be nice if Charlie Pierce could sober up, BS.

Money quote from Bill Palmer~

And so now Bernie’s ongoing willingness to sit back and let the lunatic fringe to carry out his dirty work – both online and at conventions – has cost him yet another prominent ally. By the time he gets back the Senate, he may not have any meaningful allies left at all.



Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
10. Bernie is soaking in the attention he never had in his 35 years in elected office.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

It has become an intoxicant to him and he can't see the turmoil and destruction he's left behind him. Bernie will not be welcomed back in the senate as the underdog who gave his all. Rather he will be shunned as the party disruptor he has become.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
11. Ye-ah! BS' PR is horrific..
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

So many of us are going to be so happy when his disingenuous campaign hits the skids.

Fla Dem~

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. If Sanders does not speak out against this soon it shows he damn sure does not need to be president.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

He should be able to stand down the mob actions of his supporters.

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
9. I love Charlie Pierce, he's on the Stephanie Miller show once a week and always advocated for BS.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:17 AM
May 2016

But he didn't do it in the shrill maniacal way the frothing at the mouth BS supporters did. He made his arguments and was willing to hear counter arguments. I've seen him on MSNBC advocating for BS, again in a rational, honest dialogue.

Yup the rabid remainders of the BS campaign are burning every bridge behind them. Much like OWS ended up doing.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
12. With all due respect to Mr Pierce, there were many of us who
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

early on in the primary process heard what Sanders was preaching, saw the level of zealotry he was inspiring and were able to project those things into our mind's eye to envision a future that has sadly come to pass at the end of this campign season. We weren't fooled by the giddiness of the MSM, or the false claims that Sanders was bringing in hordes of new voters or that Hillary was uninspiring. No, we heard the demagoguery, the "my way or the highway" meme, and Sanders' artful smears that Hillary called out early in the process.

I said months ago that a Sanders presidency would set back the progressive cause by decades. I based that on Sanders' pie-in-the-sky policies and his Reganesque voodoo economic plans to pay for said pie. I based that on the fact that Sanders had the rep of not being able to work with his colleagues. I based that on the fact that back benchers were back benchers for a reason, and that back benchers always overstep and fail when thrust into a position of leadership.

I saw it, Mr Pierce, as did many others. I'm not surprised it took you a while to see the obvious, and I'm glad you're now speaking out. That said, it would be good if you were the person who did an in-depth post mortem on the Sanders campaign to explain how you and others in the punditry were so easily taken in by this snake oil salesman.

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