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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:24 PM May 2016

Dems' new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/


Democratic Convention into chaos.
"I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did," Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. "Apparently they've done it before. .... This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can't describe it -- disrespectful doesn't even explain it, it was worse than that."

READ: Changing super delegate rules would still leave Sanders behind
Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.


What's more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
"He should get things under control," Boxer said of Sanders, saying it was worse than the vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount. "We're in a race that is very critical. We have to be united. He knows that. I have in fact, called him a couple times, left a couple messages. I'm hopeful he can get control of this."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said "I do" when asked if Sanders should drop out of the race after voting concludes on June 7, giving Clinton a chance to "pivot" to the general election ahead of the July convention.
"I think it would be most regretful if there becomes a schism," Feinstein said. "That's what Donald Trump should want: a schism in our party. ... It's the responsibility particularly of Sen. Sanders to see that that doesn't happen."

On Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he had a "long conversation" with Sanders to lay out what happened in Nevada.
"He said that he condemns that. I'm confident he does," Reid told reporters. "This is a test of leadership."
Reid declined to comment when asked if he was worried that Sanders' backers could upend the national convention this summer.



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This getting out of hand.....I wonder what other countries feel about this in America....going on I have family in Europe its not pretty picture they hear.....
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Dems' new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention (Original Post) Iamaartist May 2016 OP
It is not hyperbole. These people were/are thugs. Stand and Fight May 2016 #1
I agree..its getting dangerous.... Iamaartist May 2016 #2
The media's horse race dropped dead, this is just their fallback clickbait. BobbyDrake May 2016 #3
It's not "clickbait". Stand and Fight May 2016 #5
With respect, I don't need you to tell me how to criticize the media. BobbyDrake May 2016 #10
Noted and you have my apologies. Stand and Fight May 2016 #19
We're all cool. #icemanpun BobbyDrake May 2016 #20
One of my favorites! I was wondering if that was your inspiration. n/t Stand and Fight May 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Stand and Fight May 2016 #6
They will try and carry it to the Dem's convention but I'm fully aware Iliyah May 2016 #4
I hope it doesn't come to that, Iamaartist. sheshe2 May 2016 #7
Me to..there is alot rage in this country going on...,its a big fear.... Iamaartist May 2016 #12
It almost sounds like Bernie is hiring professional Thugs! Walk away May 2016 #8
Could be...I thought our era was bad....... Iamaartist May 2016 #13
the big fish from the tiny small pond is unhappy not having the vast ocean to himself nt msongs May 2016 #9
That's a way to look at it..... Iamaartist May 2016 #14
I've come to the conclusion that Sanders hard line supporters will try and cause book_worm May 2016 #11
I hope not,but doesn't look good right now... Iamaartist May 2016 #15
Security at the conventions is being headed up by the Secret Service... Princess Turandot May 2016 #16
The Big Lesson is "NEVER AGAIN." BlueMTexpat May 2016 #17
That's what he wants nini May 2016 #18
I truly believe those idiots Turin_C3PO May 2016 #22

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
1. It is not hyperbole. These people were/are thugs.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:28 PM
May 2016

Who am I supposed to believe the people who say they're not thugs or my lying eyes? Since my eyes and ears weren't lying, I'll go with them.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
3. The media's horse race dropped dead, this is just their fallback clickbait.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:37 PM
May 2016

I believe the majority of Bernie's supporters still want to stop Trump from becoming president.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
5. It's not "clickbait".
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

Good grief. It's what has been happening. Of course, you'd know that if you'd been paying attention.

- Retiring congressman Jim McDermott of Washington had a Sanders supporter threaten to cut out his tongue. He'd shown up at his office screaming and almost foaming at the mouth.
- In Los Angeles, Sanders supporters harassed Clinton supporters -- including children -- as they left a rally in support of Hillary. Even going as far as to yell at children and ripping a sign Hillary had signed from a little girl's hands.
- In Alaska this pass weekend they also caused a ruckus by threatening party officials.
- In the Nevada Democratic Convention on Saturday -- where I was a delegate with my wife -- I witnessed them yelling, calling Barbara Boxer a bitch, threatening our State Chairwoman, and throwing a chair at the podium.
- A site was created to target superdelegates with harassment to try to intimidate them into changing their support to Sanders.
- Sanders supporters have attacked, harassed, and revealed the phone numbers and home addresses of Clinton supporters.

So, spare me your excuses.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
10. With respect, I don't need you to tell me how to criticize the media.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

I'm not here to dismiss stories of bad behavior by Sanders supporters as clickbait. Nor am I trying to imply the stories aren't really happening. My point is that the media enables this and shares the blame. It's the entire media narrative of "the ongoing Democratic Primary" that is the clickbait, because the Democratic Primary was over back in March.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
19. Noted and you have my apologies.
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

I'm likely a bit hypersensitive from dealing with those assholes this weekend. Either way, I shouldn't lash out at others. You're right and I apologize.

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. They will try and carry it to the Dem's convention but I'm fully aware
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

that the DNC will be prepared.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
8. It almost sounds like Bernie is hiring professional Thugs!
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

Maybe that's his latest plan to flip the delegates. Scare the shit out of them by having your campaign threaten Democrats.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
14. That's a way to look at it.....
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

You would think a candidate running for the white house..would act more professional,I don't see him that way....

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
11. I've come to the conclusion that Sanders hard line supporters will try and cause
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

problems at the Democratic convention. I'm sure some of those hardliners on DU will be there egging them on or joining in as well.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
16. Security at the conventions is being headed up by the Secret Service...
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

because they are considered (paraphrasing) important national events requiring the highest level of security.

These bad actors seem closer to petulant children than go-for-broke agitators. I'm not sure that they're ready to trade mom and dad's basement for the federal hoosegow. So, unless Clint Eastwood has a cameo appearance planned, I don't think there will be any more chairs playing a role!

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
17. The Big Lesson is "NEVER AGAIN."
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

NEVER AGAIN must the Democratic Party allow itself to be used as a vehicle to the Presidency by someone who has not only never been a Dem until five minutes before his campaign began but who has spent most of his political career berating Democrats.

There must be a minimum time requirement as a functioning and successful Democratic politician before one can jump into a Presidential race as a Democratic candidate.

It may not necessarily be required for other positions. But for President, it must be a requirement. If there were ever any doubt, 2016 shows just how much a time requirement is needed.

The silver lining is that these situations have shown that a Sanders Presidency would be a disaster, even if that disaster might be at least slightly better than the unmitigated disaster of a Trump Presidency.

Turin_C3PO

(13,952 posts)
22. I truly believe those idiots
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:07 AM
May 2016

to be a minority of Sanders supporters. I continue to believe that Bernie will endorse Clinton at the convention, and that most Bernie Sanders voters (including me) will happily vote for Clinton against the Orange Menace.

If Bernie for some odd reason encourages mayhem or disunity at the convention or afterwards, then all my respect for him will go down the drain. But he won't!

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