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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:36 AM May 2016

Bernie Sanders is NO DEMOCRAT!!!!! (Hillary Clinton Group)

Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch

Defiant and determined to transform the Democratic Party, Senator Bernie Sanders is opening a two-month phase of his presidential campaign aimed at inflicting a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton in California and amassing enough leverage to advance his agenda at the convention in July — or even wrest the nomination from her.

Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump.

After sounding subdued if not downbeat about the race for weeks, Mr. Sanders resumed a combative posture against Mrs. Clinton, demanding on Wednesday that she debate him before the June 7 primary in California and highlighting anew what he asserted were her weaknesses against Mr. Trump.

While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html?emc=edit_th_20160519&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0

UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE!


This piece of crap comes into to the party that he was never part of and wants to destroy it and in the process will gamble with allowing a monster like Trump to take control of this country.

Bernie Sanders is not a liberal and most certainly not a Democrat!
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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. He should have nerver been allowed to run on the ticket
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:50 AM
May 2016

How this happened is incredibly stupid on the part of the Democratic Party.



BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
10. I don't believe that any Dems
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:05 AM
May 2016

took him seriously. They KNEW him, after all.

His run has surprised a lot of people. But I detect the fine hands of KKKarl Rove and Kochs behind the scene. They recognize Bernie as the best chance to hurt Hillary. And boy would they LOVE to run against Bernie in the GE.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
3. Nothing he does or can do will win him the nomination. Nothing.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:50 AM
May 2016

I know it's easy to believe that this will damage Democrats, but the only one Bernie is damaging is himself. No one at the convention is going to help him achieve anything if this is how he's behaving. And I think he can kiss a committee chairmanship if the Democrats retake the Senate goodbye, at this point. Hopefully a Democratic Primary challenger in Vermont emerges also, because I think Bernie needs to be challenged more forcefully going forward.

And once Bernie is out, then we can focus on the historic nomination and the general election, while Sanders slinks back to Vermont. The media is making all of this into something it is not. Sanders has no power, no leverage, and now, no integrity. What Democrats are going to want to be caught on the side of the man who endorsed violence by his supporters as Sanders did this week? Which Democrats are going to want to have to answer for that? He will influence nothing at the convention. I think the media is feeding him a lot of bullshit that inflates his ego, and he eats it right up.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
5. I know that, but he is now out to destroy the Democratic Party chances in November
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:52 AM
May 2016

Its that same mentality that the entire BS crowd has had all along my way or they highway.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
9. The BoB crowd is a loud minority. There's nothing progressive about their behavior.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:04 AM
May 2016

And ultimately, Bernie will have to answer for his deranged rhetoric. "If Democrats are so bad, why did you run for their nomination? If Democrats are so evil, why have you caucused with them for so long now?"

And when he responds with his cynical "for money and media attention" answer, everyone will see he's nothing but sour grapes. A failed radical unwilling to self-examine to see where he went wrong, who instead blames everyone else for his failures. An unserious person, in other words.

All of this happened before in 2008, so it's not like there are no precedents here. BoB = PUMA = loud losers who influence nothing but the media. The majority of Democrats will unite, and successfully make the case against Donald Trump. By August, Bernie will be a distant memory.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. sanders in the end will have what ever left of his legacy destroyed and in doing so
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:52 AM
May 2016

may bring trump into the whitehouse....his name will be associated with the likes of Benedict Arnold, Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh...etc

there is no doubt on the intention of sanders and his supporters.......a grave mistake to allow this guy to run as a democrat....one that most likely will have a lasting negative consequence for america

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
8. I think at this stage Hillary still needs to ignore sanders and let his anger and follwers
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:59 AM
May 2016

continue to threaten, be violent, etc.......then somehow clamp down at the convention to minimize the chaos they are BOUND AND DETERMINE to create.

Sanders true colors has been revealed....and they aren't pretty....as america has a good chance of being destroyed with Trump in the whitehouse and we have sanders and his people responsible.....so they can "teach america a lesson"


 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. The Bernie revolution is a hostile takeover
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:24 AM
May 2016

If Bernie can't get the nomination, which he can't, then he will bern down the party and its nominee.

I don't really know why people are surprised at this. The man has ALWAYS been hostile to the democratic party. He suckered the entire party by fooling them into believing that he would support other democrats if his bid failed. His whole entire career has been about himself only. He has never helped anyone politically as far as I know. He's only in it for himself like always.

So the party embraced the snake, welcomed it into their home and treated it nice and now it strikes like a poisonous snake does, and every one is surprised and astounded!

He is doing what he has done for decades! Who could have see it coming eh? DUH!

Can Bernie Sanders Win the Love of a Party He Scorns?
The long, troubled history of Bernie Sanders and the 'ideologically bankrupt' party whose White House nod he now seeks.
By MICHAEL KRUSE and MANU RAJU August 10, 2015
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181


Bernie Sanders says he ran as Democrat for the media attention
By REBECCA SHABAD CBS NEWS March 15, 2016, 11:38 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-says-he-ran-as-democrat-for-the-media-attention/

All the info was out there but people chose to ignore it and now the Democratic party is going to pay a high price for that. So will this country if Sanders is successful in tearing down the party and its candidate enough to allow Trump and the republicans to take over the government and pack the SCOTUS with hardcore right wingers.

I suppose there are still folks out there who thought one of Bernie's main surrogates Susan Sarandon didn't really mean it when she said it would be better for Trump to win because he will "bring the revolution".

That was no joke IMO folks. I'm sure she was dead serious and I'm also sure Bernie has the exact same attitude.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
12. Negative? Damage? Does this mean more death threats, more harrassment?
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:40 AM
May 2016

more scaring children in rallies, more calling women c*nt? More bullying of HRC supporters, voters, surrogates, and Democrats in general?

Does this mean a lot of FOX interviews? Be-friending of Trump? BS surrogates going on Hyper-Drive! -we know how successful that is!

Ah Goodie!

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
13. I have a suggestion for the DNC
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:45 AM
May 2016

As soon as Hillary wins the last 88 or so delegates she will win next week (edit: I wish ! But whenever the next primaries are in June) have the part leaders hold a press conference and announce that Hillary is the democratic nominee, she won it fair and square , tell Bernie and his fanatics either become a true Democrat (if they ever were in the first place ) or GTFO . Don't even let those Socialist bastards anywhere near the convention, since we've already seen how crazy they acted in Nevada . This is the Democratic Party, not the damn Anarchy movement !!!

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